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Urgent help needed with 1.6 TD SB From KKK 14 to KKK 24 -- Question
by
zgherlos
on 22 Apr, 2015 03:13
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Hi diesel heads ! I've just "downgraded" from my beloved kkk 14 turbo who sadly died from poor oil and oil pressure to a kkk 24 turbo , intercooled .
I have 2.7 TDI airbox , 165 injectors , 1.9 ALH head on my pump, 1.6 N/A cam , governor mod and a 5 cm in diameter free exhaust .
The problem is that the car feels dead .. pressure in turbo builds up to about 0,6 bar , also it smokes a bit ( a lot ) .
I want to take it to about 1,1 - 1.2 bar and i want the car to work properly . The engine is a bit noisy ( i think that has something to to with advance or something like that ) .
What's left to thinker with ? what else do i need to make it work good and get some fun out of it ? I'm also a in a pit hole with my wallet so .. DIY things are welcome .
Thank you and i am desperately waiting for some advice .
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#1
by
manehfr
on 22 Apr, 2015 04:01
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you could get a repair kit for the k14... k24 are very laggy... but check out the pressure valve in the intake... if you still have the intake from de 1.6
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#2
by
theman53
on 22 Apr, 2015 06:46
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Put a bigger downpipe on and it should do well. I had a Giles pump and 3" downpipe when I had a K24 but it spooled up faster than the vnt in my 01 TDI.
Also, .6 Bar is around 8 psi. All my turbos didn't really do anything until 5-6psi, so you need to get that up to around 15psi or a little over 1 Bar to see that the K24 is a good turbo. It really isn't even lit at 8 psi.
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#3
by
vanbcguy
on 22 Apr, 2015 07:05
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Yeah a K24 with an intercooler is the bee's knees, but you need to be pushing 20 PSI to make use of its capabilities.
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#4
by
RabbitJockey
on 22 Apr, 2015 07:22
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also make sure the wastegate isn't sticking, that can make it spool slow. k24 is a great turbo once you increase boost and crank up the fueling a bit. if u are going to run stock boost though the k14 is a much better turbo.
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#5
by
zgherlos
on 22 Apr, 2015 23:15
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Ok .. the problem that i am facing now goes like this ... I creanked up 4 full turns of the screw on the actuator ... it really didn't do anything just that my engine overheats ?? is it overheating from the fact that i turned that screw on the actuator or is it from the fact that the fuel mixture is too rich ? I think there is little air coming at low speeds because it kind of cools down if i drive it fast . I have a 5.5 cm radius downpipe so that's taken care of .... And how do i make sure the westgate is working ? My only problems now is to make it not overheat , get a good air mixture and raise the boost ... i don't know how to do any of this ..any advices ?
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#6
by
zgherlos
on 24 Apr, 2015 04:55
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Nobody ?
I want to know how to adjust the air/fuel mixture .
i've recently found out that i have 144 bar injectors (stock on the sb engine ) and 1.9 90hp head in the pump .
My egt's are lower as i've unscrewed the screw on my westgate but the car is slow ... i know it can do better than this
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#7
by
zgherlos
on 24 Apr, 2015 04:56
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also , i'm idling at around 900 and sometimes 1000 rpm .... i would love about 1050 per say 1100 rpm as my idle ... it makes the car smoother . How do i properly do that ?
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#8
by
jmaddocks
on 24 Apr, 2015 05:27
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Ok .. the problem that i am facing now goes like this ... I creanked up 4 full turns of the screw on the actuator ... it really didn't do anything just that my engine overheats ?? is it overheating from the fact that i turned that screw on the actuator or is it from the fact that the fuel mixture is too rich ? I think there is little air coming at low speeds because it kind of cools down if i drive it fast . I have a 5.5 cm radius downpipe so that's taken care of .... And how do i make sure the westgate is working ? My only problems now is to make it not overheat , get a good air mixture and raise the boost ... i don't know how to do any of this ..any advices ?
Are you saying your coolant is overheating? If so, I would solve that first. Make sure the fan is running, do a coolant flush, check/replace the thermostat, etc...
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#9
by
theman53
on 24 Apr, 2015 05:47
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The "air/fuel mixture" is adjusted by pushing the go pedal. It is not a gas car, there is no fuel in your intake, no throttle plate, etc.
The FAQ section has many threads on "how to make your 1.6/1.6td/1.9 a faster car" read there for basic injection pump knowledge and come back to ask more specific questions.
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#10
by
manehfr
on 24 Apr, 2015 07:18
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maybe its due to the LDA... or fuel screw... if it isnt rolling coal at all you need a litle more fuel screw...