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AC delete in 1.6d NA help
by
mk2drtydiesel
on 04 Jan, 2015 22:34
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First off car is a 90 jetta 1.6 diesel NA. I am doing the ac delete using stock mounting bracket, flipped my alternator down where compressor used to be. I am using the 90amp alternator, and factory crank and water pump pullies (double belted pullies) with no PS hooked up nor am i going to in future im on 13s lol. Now with my alt flipped down, my crank and WP pullies line up just my alternator pulley does not because of the ac setup. MY question is what pulley do i need to run on the 90 amp alt to make this work? Ive done quite some research found some part numbers. {7224-01023233} 30mm extension converts ALX 90amp alt to ALM 65 amp alt but then i would have to change my other pullies?
the other pulley below
{049 903 119L} the site says for 8v with round compressor, also used to help delete AC.
BELOW is a picture of my setup with stock ac pulley
Below that witrhout the alt pulley
below setup i found online that im going after how DA f do you post pics on here
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#1
by
theman53
on 05 Jan, 2015 07:27
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Some have used a 2 grove pulley from something like a ford f350 in the 90's. It will replace your stock pulley but it has no channel for the key stock. I have used it and no issues so far. It is quite a bit heavier than stock which I thought would want to over run and loosen it, but it has not so far. Search in the upgrades or trouble shooting section, should find it there.
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#2
by
mk2drtydiesel
on 05 Jan, 2015 14:10
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i have seen that setup. but im trying to see if any other pullies will fit ? cannot find any info nor do i have the time/money to be swapping pullies around just lloking for an stock alt pulley that will work.
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#3
by
theman53
on 05 Jan, 2015 16:41
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Good luck. If you find one report back if it is less than the 10.00 one I have on my car.
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#4
by
mk2drtydiesel
on 05 Jan, 2015 17:30
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Ok I defiantly will report back. Would you happen to have a part number for that pulley? And are you using the 90 amp alternator and what crank and wp pullies.
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#5
by
theman53
on 05 Jan, 2015 17:53
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No, yes, and I don't know I think stock a/c diesel pulleys.
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#6
by
Dakotakid
on 06 Jan, 2015 13:00
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#7
by
LOBOTAC
on 06 Jan, 2015 14:44
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Did the same to mine a couple of years ago. Went to several junk yards thinking I would find the right pulley. Shopped around on ebay and various other sites. One day on the way home passed a small mom and pop alternator/starter rebuild shop and pulled in just to see if they could order what I needed. Explained what I was trying to do and the owner came out and looked at the set up and I explained to him what I was doing, he lead me to a pile of bosch alternators laying in a back room. In less than 5 minutes of digging he handed me the proper offset pulley and with a smile and a hand shake thanked me for stopping in. Wouldn't let me pay him anything for the part. Only told me to remember them when I needed some work done on my alternator or starters in the future.
That I will certainly do! Really renewed my belief in doing business locally and at small family owned shops whenever possible. So look around for some local shops and give that a try.
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#8
by
mk2drtydiesel
on 06 Jan, 2015 18:14
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lobotac: could you send a picture of your setup for reference? to see what other pulleys you are using, i am just about at my wits with this ac delete about to just keep it in just becasue i cannot find any info altough i know people have done it before.
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#9
by
mk2drtydiesel
on 06 Jan, 2015 18:17
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If i used that ebay pulley could i use the same width belt with the ac crank and water pump pullies? or would i have to get a different width belt? i know i would deff need a longer one belt just wondring if stock width is good.
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#10
by
Dakotakid
on 06 Jan, 2015 20:37
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The belt I used came from O'Reilley's and cost about $6.50 (same width) and is 1008 mm long.
This ain't brain surgery.
I will send you a private message.
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#11
by
Jetmugg
on 07 Jan, 2015 12:58
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Did the same to mine a couple of years ago. Went to several junk yards thinking I would find the right pulley. Shopped around on ebay and various other sites. One day on the way home passed a small mom and pop alternator/starter rebuild shop and pulled in just to see if they could order what I needed. Explained what I was trying to do and the owner came out and looked at the set up and I explained to him what I was doing, he lead me to a pile of bosch alternators laying in a back room. In less than 5 minutes of digging he handed me the proper offset pulley and with a smile and a hand shake thanked me for stopping in. Wouldn't let me pay him anything for the part. Only told me to remember them when I needed some work done on my alternator or starters in the future.
That I will certainly do! Really renewed my belief in doing business locally and at small family owned shops whenever possible. So look around for some local shops and give that a try.
I second this recommendation. The father of a friend has owned and operated his own starter/alternator shop for 50 year in central Missouri. There is NOTHING about a starter or alternator this guy (or others like him) do not know. From personal experience, I know that it's possible to use a GM alternator with double-row pulley in this application as well. Somewhere online is a chart showing the offsets and centerlines of all available alternator pulleys.
However, I'm also going to recommend buying a non-A/C alternator bracket and the correct alternator for your application. In the long run, your life will be much easier not having to fight with that funky bracketry that VW came up with for the AC-equipped cars.
Steve
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#12
by
srgtlord
on 16 Jan, 2015 09:07
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Agreed, nothing is a substitution for a matched vw non-ac pulley and bracket set but I personally could not locate a V-Belt setup in a timely fashion. When I purchased my first vw golf it had the wrong alternator and a mis-match set of pulley's and the wrong size belt. It kept on shredding the v-belts. I fought with various pulleys and belt combinations until I finally went with the serpentine setup which has worked flawlessly for 5 years until recently when the bolts sheared off from the block(although this was probably attributed to the fact that the bolts used to secure the alternator bracket to the block are one time use bolts plus I definitely over-torqued the bolts as they are only supposed to be torqued to 15ft lbs)