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January 04, 2015, 03:31:11 pm

countach

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the Engine is a 1Z and the nozzles are set to 210 bar but what should i set the timing to??



Reply #1January 04, 2015, 05:01:58 pm

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 05:01:58 pm »
What's the pump from?
Bryn

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Reply #2January 04, 2015, 05:44:54 pm

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 05:44:54 pm »
What's the pump from?


the pump is from vw lt28 lt 46 2.8tdi mechanical pump


Reply #3January 08, 2015, 10:49:12 am

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 10:49:12 am »
My pump is a vw pump with land rover internals - it's a bit of a hybrid because wanted to just be able to bolt it on.  With mine running currently stock 1Z/AHU injectors I have it set as far advanced as possible (pump slots at max toward engine) at 1.40 using the dial gauge.  This should equate to about 12° BTC.  I starts beautifully even at -30°C now that we have winter.

I would start at 1.3 or so (if you have dial gauge).   The Mtdi pump needs to be much more advanced than the old IDI engines.  My $.02
99' 1.9 1Z Tdi, hybrid pump -1.9 housing & rover internals, 2052 wastegate turbo,.25 hflox nozzles, SDI intake, CTN tranny
96' 1.6 TD Golf, Giles pump, VNT 17, Gas changed to Diesel, Air to Water Int.

Reply #4January 08, 2015, 12:27:42 pm

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 12:27:42 pm »
I'm running a Rover pump too... Mine is at about 1.40 give or take, I used the dial gauge to get it in the neighbourhood and then used my pulse adapter and timing light to find 12° BTDC.

I know I've seen mention of the LT pump around quite a bit but I'm not sure if anyone on here specifically has run one.  Lots of Rover / Cummins pumps though.  The cam plate / head are different in the LT pump so the Rover numbers aren't going to mean all that much.
Bryn

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Reply #5January 11, 2015, 06:23:15 pm

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 06:23:15 pm »
I've run the same LT 2.8 pump you have for 2 years. .90mm is a good starting point for timing this pump.
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Reply #6January 11, 2015, 11:24:12 pm

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 11:24:12 pm »
Some say 12 degrees at  idling speed  is a good start.

Reply #7January 12, 2015, 01:03:13 am

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Re: install my mtdi pump 0460424138 but what should I set the timing to?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 01:03:13 am »
12 degrees works great for me. But you need a light to find that. With any luck one day someone with an LT pump and someone with a pulse adapter will be in the same place at the same time...
Bryn

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