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December 03, 2014, 07:03:52 pm

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Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« on: December 03, 2014, 07:03:52 pm »
I am trying to put a vw t3 on my aaz, i thought the oil return line would be easy, i bought a t3 oil drain flange with 1/2" npt, and then bought a 1/2" barb with 1/2" npt threads, but this won't work because the barb would hit the exhaust manifold, as you can see in the below pic(not mine) the stock line has a hard bend immediately after the turbo.  I am curious what any one else has done to run a t3 or k24 on an aaz

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Reply #1December 03, 2014, 07:18:13 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 07:18:13 pm »
I'd use the stock 1.6TD line, cut off the crimp and clamp on the end of the AAZ line.  An alternative would be to get a 45° barb fitting for the T3 flange you bought.

BTW, I got one of these (I think it was 1-3/8") to plug the BOV hole.  It works perfectly.
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Reply #2December 03, 2014, 08:32:23 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 08:32:23 pm »
Stock is deff the best way. Mine was a squeeze, -10an, i used a 45* fitting for the turbo. Drain to the manifold is way too close.

Reply #3December 03, 2014, 09:54:26 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 09:54:26 pm »
I didn't do it on an aaz but the 1.6 I used that aluminum flange you did but I had to grind it down so it would clear. I went with JIC fittings and not barbed so I could take it off without pulling the manifold as it gets tight in car.

Reply #4December 04, 2014, 05:43:51 am

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 05:43:51 am »
I'd use the stock 1.6TD line, cut off the crimp and clamp on the end of the AAZ line.  An alternative would be to get a 45° barb fitting for the T3 flange you bought.

BTW, I got one of these (I think it was 1-3/8") to plug the BOV hole.  It works perfectly.

i do have a 1.6 drain some where, but not in front of me, are they the same size when i remove the crimp?  already cut the crimp and hose off of the banjo fitting in the back of the aaz block, and that was 1/2"

if that wont work i'll have to go with the AN stuff i blieve, i don't think there is even enough room for a 45.

and if the an stuff won't work, i can just put the k14 back on it haha.
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Reply #5December 04, 2014, 07:41:51 am

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 07:41:51 am »
I hate the typical aluminum AN fittings and vastly prefer barb fittings.  The ANs tend to leak/break, are more of a hassle to assemble, they cost more and are much larger on the outside with small inner diameters.  Basically they are mode of an alloy that consists of a little bit of aluminum mixed with a predominance of schitte.  I guess they look pretty....

Reply #6December 04, 2014, 12:19:40 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2014, 12:19:40 pm »
I hate the typical aluminum AN fittings and vastly prefer barb fittings.  The ANs tend to leak/break, are more of a hassle to assemble, they cost more and are much larger on the outside with small inner diameters.  Basically they are mode of an alloy that consists of a little bit of aluminum mixed with a predominance of schitte.  I guess they look pretty....

any recommendation on sealers?  i have some high temp thread sealer i was going to paint on, not sure if it's good for oil, but i'll probably tighten this *** so much that it doesn't matter whether there is sealer on it or not haha.
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Reply #7December 04, 2014, 12:23:09 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2014, 12:23:09 pm »
The Right Stuff is the best sealant I have used for places in contact with oil. 


Reply #8December 04, 2014, 12:39:25 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2014, 12:39:25 pm »
The Right Stuff is the best sealant I have used for places in contact with oil.

even on the pipe threads?
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Reply #9December 04, 2014, 03:01:45 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2014, 03:01:45 pm »
I haven't used The Right Stuff on pipe threads.  I thought you were asking about sealing line to barb.  I use Permatex High Temp Thread Sealant on pipe threads.

Reply #10December 04, 2014, 03:43:39 pm

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2014, 03:43:39 pm »
ok thats what i have
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Reply #11December 04, 2014, 04:43:48 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2014, 04:43:48 pm »
Yeah, I hate the an fittings but the JIC made of steel are tons better. Still are bulky but not as much so as the aluminum and if you need to you can drill them and not worry about breakage like the aluminum ones. JIC and an are the same threads and 37.5 degree flare btw.

Reply #12December 04, 2014, 05:02:28 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2014, 05:02:28 pm »
I agree.  Steel JIC are much better than the aluminum AN fittings.  I put the JIC functionally on par with barb fittings, as long as you can get them to fit, but the barb I can assemble myself whereas the JIC fittings require that I have a place crimp it together.  The JIC certainly give a more finished appearance but that's the only upside I see over barbs.

Reply #13December 04, 2014, 05:35:24 pm

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Re: Fitting a t3 or k24 to an aaz, oil return line?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2014, 05:35:24 pm »
I find that barbs can degrade the hose over time, especially if you take it apart and put it back together. The JIC you can take apart and put it back many times unless you mess up the sealing face and on the steel it is very hard to do. I would use barb over the aluminum any day and if it isn't something that I want to easily take apart.

Reply #14December 04, 2014, 05:54:30 pm

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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2014, 05:54:30 pm »
the crimpers are fun to use haha.  i don't know why i didn't just talk to andy before making this thread since he basically has the same setup as me, but as libby suggested i can just use the t3 drain pipe with the aaz block banjo drain and some hose, here is andys setup which i will replicate

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