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July 22, 2014, 04:48:55 am

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winter starting woes
« on: July 22, 2014, 04:48:55 am »
Well, I am in a spot this year where -40 and lower are very common temperatures... I was thinking I'd like to get marine starting/deep cycle battery in there. Something with 700 or so cranking amps, but 90 or higher Ah rating. I have found one that has a 115 Ah rating.

What do you guys think?

ps. I will be running a 0w40 synthetic for sure.


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Reply #1July 22, 2014, 06:51:07 am

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 06:51:07 am »
Biggest battery you can find, only drawback is extra weight...
But for running a Diesel in lower than -40° you need engine and diesel heaters anyways, and about 30% or more paraffin in the diesel, cause just pure diesel would freeze...

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Reply #2July 22, 2014, 08:57:41 am

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Re: winter starting woes
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 08:57:41 am »
I went to 1/0 battery cables as well. We only got to -28f this year, but 0 voltage/amperage loss is a good thing.

Reply #3July 23, 2014, 09:41:13 pm

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 09:41:13 pm »
Canada has very well treated fuel, so there is no worries there on the fuel front. This town I am in is industry run, and %80 of the vehicles on the road are diesel. Extra weight? Haha, this is not a race car. I still averaged 4.5L/100km for 4000kms fully loaded with all my stuff moving here. I would actually love to just put a 4D or 8D deep cycle in my trunk and run huge cables through the cabin lol while keeping the normal battery up front.

I have a group 65 in there now, which is I think for an f-350. But those are a dual battery truck.

Yeah, I think -28 -30 was the line where it wouldn't start anymore. There or warmer was no issue, but colder (few -40's last winter) no chance. This winter is going to be a whole new ball game..
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Reply #4July 23, 2014, 11:15:50 pm

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2014, 11:15:50 pm »
I'm not too far from you but the temps in Fort Mcmoney  are consistently 10 degrees colder then here.  I think your only real option is a diesel fired heater from webasto or espar.  I have a webasto in my car and it fits perfectly in front of the drivers wheel well.  They're equivalent to a 5000 watt block heater, draw very little power once fired up and can be set up to turn on with a remote or even your phone.  Fifteen minutes of running the heater in the coldest weather and the car will start.   
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Reply #5July 23, 2014, 11:36:44 pm

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 11:36:44 pm »
I figured as much. Haven't hit the oil yet b'y, ain't made of all the monies lolol.

I like those heaters from my research tonight! They looks damn cool. I have never looked them up before.. but I don't know why these aren't standard options from the factory on Canadian diesels??!

What did yours run you to pick up 410?
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Reply #6July 24, 2014, 12:20:49 am

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 12:20:49 am »
I purchased a few off the internet with a buddy of mine but got burned in the end.  Together we purchased 4 heaters, 3 of them used.  One of the used ones worked and the new one I got for a deal needs to be on a can-buss.  Have to spend another 300 for a controller to run that one but it works.  If you can find a new one for about a grand you're doing okay.  Once you have one of these heaters you can't live without one. 
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Reply #7October 27, 2014, 12:02:30 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2014, 12:02:30 pm »
Best thing for a diesel in Alberta is a webasto.

Reply #8December 13, 2014, 12:32:38 am

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 12:32:38 am »
I did however install a Frost Heater from Terry Frost, and it is plugged in every second it is not running. Works very very well. I haven't used my glow plugs in 3 weeks. At All. Manual setup ;) no glow needed.
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