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• #60 by icyhotpatch on 24 Jun, 2014 18:19
• Pull start? Another car? I'm calling it for the night I'm just confused. I get black diesel exhaust but it won't start. I thought maybe I wired the starter wrong anyone got a pic of theirs installed?
  
  Most likely wasting time at work.
  
  
• #61 by Renax on 25 Jun, 2014 02:47
• You cant wire the starter wrong...
  Diesel smoke and no start means bad glowplugs or wrong timing, or sometimes just air leak in fuel supply lines.
  Try pullstarting at Theman suggests, then it will start with some air it the diesel. Pullstart will also work without functioning glowplugs, and with the timing slightly off...
  
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• #62 by icyhotpatch on 25 Jun, 2014 05:06
• I'm thinking its air in the lines. New glow plugs and it was like 85 degrees
  I think I'm going to retard the pump timing slightly and crank see what it does. There doesn't seem to be any fuel leaks. I had pumped with my mighty vac pump and it didn't take long to prime it.
  
  I was being facetious about the starter.
  
  Most likely wasting time at work.
• #63 by icyhotpatch on 10 Jul, 2014 13:18
• So I have tried once or twice trying to start the car since i last posted to no avail. I am now trying to get another person to help me push it out of the garage so I can roll it down a cliff. . . . I mean hill. It seems like I have adequate cranking speed the glow plug light goes off after a few seconds.
  
  Will fuel flow through the pump if the fuel stop solenoid wasn't working/hooked up? I am going to go out after posting and remove some of the old fuel pour the fuel out of the filter and put some fuel that is a little more fresh in there.
• #64 by icyhotpatch on 10 Jul, 2014 15:18
• Anyone wanna trade an alh TDI for a mk1 diesel and a subaru?
  
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• #65 by ORCoaster on 10 Jul, 2014 20:32
• Something tells me we would have to remove it from the base of a cliff. 
• #66 by icyhotpatch on 25 Jul, 2014 10:08
• So I took everything back off verified tdc and retimed it. When you guys say pull start what exactly do you mean. Tow strap to another car and drive at 10 mph and pop the clutch?
  
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• #67 by Jetmugg on 25 Jul, 2014 10:37
• It might take more than a "pop" of the clutch.  I have tow-started a couple of Rabbits over the years, and sometimes they need to be pulled a considerable distance before being convinced to start.
  
  You need a good helper, and some way for the 2 of you to communicate (2-way radio or hand signals).
  
  Yes, use a tow strap of adequate length.  Choose a gear (maybe 2nd), and tow it around until it starts (after having cycled the glow plugs).  10 mph may not be fast enough, but 30 is way more than enough.
  
  My 2 cents.
  
  Steve.
• #68 by icyhotpatch on 25 Jul, 2014 18:34
• Thanks exactly why I asked I figured it might take a bit.
  
  So from what I understand:
  
  Attach rabbit to back of my Subaru pull it and once the Subaru hits 30mph cycle the glow plugs in the rabbit and let out the clutch into 2nd gear. I guess that seems high mph I always shift really low. My civic I would go about 2200 rpm unless I was in a hurry always been fuel economy minded
  
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• #69 by theman53 on 26 Jul, 2014 05:59
• No, you cycle the glow plugs before towing or at the start. You get going and have the key on, in gear, clutch in, and when you hit a speed that you are certain the Scooby doo won't die out, then let the clutch out. Tow it a reasonable speed, mine will redline at 50 in 2nd, so 25-30 isn't crazy. Really anything over 1,000 rpm should start it. Make sure there is fuel in the pump as doing this dry could damage the pump by the time fuel gets up there. It is pretty simple.
• #70 by Dakotakid on 26 Jul, 2014 11:13
• Tell you what, BEFORE you attempt to go out and "exercise" the crap out of your engine mounts, etc., why don't you get a can of cheapo WD-40 (Walmart special, for example) and spray some into your intake tract. Then, light the glow plugs for about 20 seconds, and roll it over.
  
  Last week, I finished putting a refurbished engine together and had some trouble getting it "light" once it was properly timed (none of this rolling the pump back and forth like a drunken chimpanzee with a cocoanut in his cage ("blue-ink" special)). I even have an electric pusher-pump on the car to help in "priming" the fuel supply. THAT did not adequately do the trick.
  
  I sprayed the stuff twice. On the first try, I only sprayed about 6 seconds of spray into the turbo intake manifold. It rolled over and "barked" once. Then, I sprayed more like 10 seconds of the aerosol into the tract......fired the plugs.....rolled it over with the starter.....and blamo!
  
  I honestly think this is worth a try as you seem so damned unsure of pull-starting and the logistics connected to the task .
  
  DO NOT use any ether/starting fluid. If you do, make sure you wear your catcher's mitt and catch what flies out of the engine bay!
  
  
  
• #71 by theman53 on 27 Jul, 2014 07:00
• Even with WD watch spraying too much as liquid doesn't compress like air.
• #72 by icyhotpatch on 27 Jul, 2014 13:28
• Liquid doesn't compress at all. Its not that I am unsure its more of having the second guy I trust. My engine keeps barking as well its so irrigating.
  I'm also paranoid and it makes me indecisive.
  
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• #73 by icyhotpatch on 21 Aug, 2014 18:11
• So I decided after I got back from vacation to change that glow plugs and I'll be damned it started. I posted two crappy videos on good old YouTube.
  
  http://youtu.be/FNNBFzfsYFM
  
  http://youtu.be/fwWNfP4MK2k
  
  I know I need to do some timing and throttle adjustment but it runs now!
• #74 by Gizmoman on 22 Aug, 2014 05:47
• There you go!