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June 05, 2014, 04:20:59 am

icyhotpatch

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Timing belt. GOT IT!
« on: June 05, 2014, 04:20:59 am »
I'm replacing my timing and can't manage to slip the belt on how do you guys do it?

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Reply #1June 05, 2014, 05:26:47 am

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2014, 05:26:47 am »
I usually take the pulley completely off the camshaft on 1.6 idi.
1.9 tdi i think i just took off the roller between cam and pump, but loosen the cam-pulley will be fine to..

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Reply #2June 05, 2014, 05:31:56 am

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Re: Timing belt.
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2014, 05:31:56 am »
to time the engine correctly you have to take the cam pulley off. Make sure the tensioner is loose too. Check out vince waldon's timing procedure on his website if you don't know what you are doing. Even if you do rotate the engine by hand when you are done as if you are off and there is valve contact you can ruin the head with turning it over with a starter.

Reply #3June 05, 2014, 06:26:30 am

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My issue it the cam pulley won't pop off. Over torqued by PO I'm guessing. My pulley puller sucks and started leaving marks in the end of the camshaft. I guess I will try again  pushing against the bolt head

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Reply #4June 05, 2014, 06:29:37 am

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I have another set at work I will bring home but  I think it won't be of any help as its a universal/gm harmonic balancer puller.

The IP pulley was on super tight as well. I broke a cheap pulley puller getting it off.

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Reply #5June 05, 2014, 06:40:22 am

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 06:40:22 am »
You don't use a puller, the way it is designed might make it grab harder. There is a spot in the timing cover to put a punch and smack it once sharply with a hammer. It will come right off.

Reply #6June 05, 2014, 07:01:17 am

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Did not see that anywhere. Picture or page in Bentley?

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Reply #7June 05, 2014, 07:56:27 am

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I will usually just smack it with a hammer, 9 of 10 times it will be okay. But it won't look very professional so i always make sure no one is watching...

I have tried once with a puller, the pulley got some bad marks and the puller broke. Ended up smacking the hell out of the pulley and just replace it...

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Reply #8June 05, 2014, 08:20:34 am

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I tried hitting a 12 inch extension I had resting need their base of the pulley with a 16oz hammer with no luck.

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Reply #9June 05, 2014, 09:37:16 am

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I use a hammer and punch through the small hole in the back of the metal timing cover. Pops off every time!

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Reply #10June 05, 2014, 01:56:28 pm

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2014, 01:56:28 pm »
I use a hammer and punch through the small hole in the back of the metal timing cover. Pops off every time!

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You don't use a puller, the way it is designed might make it grab harder. There is a spot in the timing cover to put a punch and smack it once sharply with a hammer. It will come right off.

Reply #11June 06, 2014, 08:18:57 am

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2014, 08:18:57 am »
I use a rubber mallet and a swift smack at the 12 o'clock position and 3 o clock position on the pulley

Reply #12June 06, 2014, 01:20:47 pm

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 01:20:47 pm »
It worked the second time I tried. I just don't like the idea of hitting engines with hammer ya know. I was looking at my timing before I put the belt on and noticed the flywheel doesn't have a 0 on it but my oil pan is off and the engine appears to be at tdc and has 2 arrows instead. Is that normal?

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Reply #13June 06, 2014, 03:41:09 pm

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2014, 03:41:09 pm »
It worked the second time I tried. I just don't like the idea of hitting engines with hammer ya know. I was looking at my timing before I put the belt on and noticed the flywheel doesn't have a 0 on it but my oil pan is off and the engine appears to be at tdc and has 2 arrows instead. Is that normal?

I know what you mean. I beat the hell out of the nut on my injection pump during the teardown. some people over-torque stuff.

dunno what to tell you about your timing marks.

Reply #14June 06, 2014, 05:07:07 pm

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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2014, 05:07:07 pm »
With the oil pan off and the valve cover off there should be no reason why you can't mark the flywheel with some paint to use as a mark later.  Best do it now before all the parts get covered.