aaz turbo option

[mark3kid]

hey there guys.
so i built myself a 1.9td aaz as my first car. i have been driving it now for about the last year. for upgrades i have
a full rebuilt engine
Giles super pump
arp head studs
T3 turbo (which i dislike)
Front mount intercooler
tdi crank

I also have a custom ground Dr.diesel cam that I still have to put in.

I put the car on the dyno last year with a k24 but the wastegate was seized and would only make about 10psi.
The car made 108hp and 160 torque
over the winter i put a t3 on and i find it very slow spooling compared to the k24 and it will also only make 20psi and most.

I am looking for your guys opinions on turbos. im looking for 160hp at the least. The only idea i have for a turbo right now is a VNT 17/22. I realise the work and money to do that but as they say you have to pay to play. so any opinions are welcome

[theman53]

From what I read the T3 is a bit bigger than the K24 and that is why it will spool slower IIRC. The Holset he211w that Alcaid has for sale in the for sale section is dyno proven to do just what you want. If you could find a similar sized Mitsubishi turbo they are built almost identical to the holset from what I have seen.
If you do use an older style T3 or K24 get it built with a 360 thrust bearing, it will like it better and spool better...way better.

[Gizmoman]

From what I read the T3 is a bit bigger than the K24 and that is why it will spool slower IIRC. The Holset he211w that Alcaid has for sale in the for sale section is dyno proven to do just what you want. If you could find a similar sized Mitsubishi turbo they are built almost identical to the holset from what I have seen.
If you do use an older style T3 or K24 get it built with a 360 thrust bearing, it will like it better and spool better...way better.

What he said !!
1.9, Giles pump, K-14 blahh - HE200 (or 211) yeah baby!

[sdubfid]

What's your budget?

[mark3kid]

Well I'd like to keep it under 1500 but if it is closer to that I want at least 180whp 

[Gizmoman]

Well I'd like to keep it under 1500 but if it is closer to that I want at least 180whp 

Send a PM to Alcaid http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=586
Great to work with and can hook you up for well under your budget.

[theman53]

With the He211w I think Alcaid can do them for under 700.00, check the for sale section. If you do all the fab work and buy all of the pieces to connect it together you would have another 300.00 in parts. I did 3" mandrel bends for a downpipe, gaskets, manifold, drain line *I had an oil feed line already*, silicone couplers and clamps for the IC, and modding or building an intake to the turbo is what the parts list is IIRC.
It has been dynoed by Alcaid somewhere around the 170hp mark.


FWIW I would never put a turbo like a 17/22 vnt on. I like the vnt turbo boost ideas, but they are just too small. I have a 2256v off of a sprinter that I am thinking of using on my jeep, just because I don't think I could get the money out of it selling it. I would rather have a holset.

[sdubfid]

You can get he200w for $520 shipped

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Holset-Turbo-HE200WG-Cummins-ISF3-8_1385924368.html

[mark3kid]

I like the way the he211w sounds. Does anyone have any experience on here with them? Also any pictures of the down pipe and how it was made. And also the Clearence with the intake manifold and how you make it fit to the exhaust manifold?
Thanks for the help guys!

[theman53]

The link provided is a Chinese copy and not the real deal IIRC.

I have the same frame holset in my build thread part 2...every thing I reply to has it in my signature.

[mark3kid]

Could you give me the page number? Haha lots of pages looks great though

[theman53]

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=31758.330

page 23 it starts and just keep going from there.

[mark3kid]

I just finished reading the entire thread. I was amazed by the amount of work. It seems like a lot of work for a 17 year old kid haha. How well do you think the bottom end will hold up? Also have you tried full petal yet?

Thanks guys!

[theman53]

The bottom end will hold up fine I think. The biggest worry is dropping another precup like the last engine. This is running way cooler than the last engine so I don't think it will as fast if it does. I may take the head off here and see what stuff looks like.

I did go full pedal the other day for about a 1/4 of a second. I wanted to see what would happen or if I would break anything. I am still worried about breaking stuff, but all it did this time was go faster.                                                       

[mark3kid]

the way you talk about that turbo just keeps making me happier keep me in touch with the power of the car please?

so i am still doing my reasearch but so far for what i want that turbo looks like the one. but im not sure i will be able to do all the fabrication.