Camera ticket advice

[vwroadkill]

a gentleman recently beat a camera ticket... he stated" I have a right to face my accuser in court". The camera cant speak
he also asked for the camera records of service and calibration.
the courts ruled in his favor..

[bbob203]

Yes exactly. Many cases like that.

[burn_your_money]

a gentleman recently beat a camera ticket... he stated" I have a right to face my accuser in court". The camera cant speak

I don't understand how this holds water. What good are security cameras then?

[RabbitJockey]

a gentleman recently beat a camera ticket... he stated" I have a right to face my accuser in court". The camera cant speak

I don't understand how this holds water. What good are security cameras then?

security camera is only good if you can some how identify the perpetrator.  Just cause it's your car doesn't mean it was you, and you can't ask the speed camera in court, hey did you definitely see me driving before you snapped the picture where you can't see me driving.

not that this is fully relevant:
there used to be this old man who needed a hobby that lived next to my highschool, every day when school let out he would sit at the traffic light where you left the school parking lot from and watch for any kids that would rev their engines or pulled out too fast and write down their license plates and call the cops... i don't know anyone who ever got a ticket from when he did that.

anyway, there was 2-3 times my senior year of school when he falsely accused people of doing burn outs and donuts in the school parking lot because of 2 people having similar vehicles.  a friend of mine had a maroon diesel rabbit, and i had a red one both 4 doors, one day it had snowed and he was pulling his ebrake and doing donuts, by my senior year the school had left that douche start working as the parking lot monitor, he saw my friend sliding around, and then after everyone went in for school he walked around until he saw what he thought was the car doing donuts, so i got in trouble for it and lost my parking permit.  i didn't make a fuss though because i had been doing donuts as well, i just hadn't been caught haha, i did it before anyone else was there, and also my friend then picked me up from a parking lot down the road and drove me up to school.

another time a girl i went to school with was dating a guy who didn't go to our school but he drove a red 96-99 mustang gt, her boyfriend did a burn out in the parking lot, then my friend with a 95 mustang gt got an actual citation for doing a burn out, funny enough my friend had stayed late at school working on a project that day so he had teachers verify his alibi, and fought it in court and won.

[vanbcguy]

Around here when they did photo radar it was manned by an officer who sat in the radar van.  The officer would be the one to show up in court to accompany the photos and even video footage of the vehicle driving in excess of the 85th percentile speed wise (they only went after the top 15% of speeders, so even if you were over the limit you probably weren't getting a ticket unless everyone else was driving at the limit).  After a few years though they scrapped the program during a government change.  A law was passed at the same time banning photo radar.

Likewise for the red light cameras an officer reviews the photos and discards any that he/she doesn't believe clearly show the vehicle in question running a red.  If the plate is obstructed, if there are other vehicles blocking views, etc then they toss them out before issuing a ticket.  The system shoots multiple frames as well, showing the vehicle crossing the stop line and proceeding in to the intersection.  If there is a court challenge the officer brings the photos along and testifies as to what is shown in the photos.  Thankfully around here the red light cameras aren't set up as revenue generators - they are run by our provincial insurance corporation.  While they obviously do generate revenue they are placed at intersections where ICBC has paid out substantial dollars in claims due to vehicles running red lights.  They are used as a tool to reduce insurance payouts rather than to generate revenue for the city.  That mandate helps reduce some of the corrupt practices I see referenced in the states where cities shorten up their yellow light times to increase the number of tickets issued for instance.  One insurance payout due to an accident can easily exceed 1,000 red light tickets.

[RabbitJockey]

there was also 1 kid who had already graduated, he had a black single cab short bed dodge dakota with a v8 and a 5 speed and dakota rt wheels, one night he came back to school and left a bunch of donut tire marks on a large side walk.  One of my friends drove a black dodge dakota rt extended cab and they were trying to get him in trouble for doing the donuts until he pointed out the difference in the trucks.

[TimpanogosSlim]

a gentleman recently beat a camera ticket... he stated" I have a right to face my accuser in court". The camera cant speak

I don't understand how this holds water. What good are security cameras then?

It gets dicey.

Down in Arizona, for a while they were deputizing employees of the camera company and had them sit in a van on the side of the road 'operating' the camera.

Until someone yanked one out of his van and shot him.

[GEE-BEE]

No front plate, tailgate down and you cant see from overhead camera

GB