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1.6 TD in a Caddy ???
by
stewardc
on 18 Mar, 2006 03:58
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Here's one for y'all. How would I find out production figures for a 1.6 TD Caddy in 1981. A friend says they were made, though I think not.
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#1
by
Maarten
on 18 Mar, 2006 04:08
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AFAIK not... not in Europa, not in the USA.
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#2
by
RabbitJockey
on 20 Mar, 2006 08:57
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this is been discussed on the tex many times, and they did make a very rare few of these.
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#3
by
BlackTieTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 09:25
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i'd like to see proof of that as other TD models didn't appear until 1983 AFAIK.
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#4
by
johnny
on 20 Mar, 2006 09:45
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The first TD was in the Golf MK1 so this is before '83, the TD-engine has never been in the caddy in europe. I don't know about amerika.
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#5
by
fspGTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 17:39
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For the VW Rabbit Pickup, ETKA only lists CR and JK diesel engine codes (which are naturally aspirated.) No engine code CY / turbo diesel.
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#6
by
RabbitJockey
on 20 Mar, 2006 18:02
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etka isn't always right... but i'm sure a quick search on vortex will lead to the threads.. there were a couple
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#7
by
fspGTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 22:16
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I really doubt ETKA's wrong, given it's a genuine VW of America data source. Seems to me that should be a lot more reliable than some hearsay on the 'net.
But given there still might be some naysayers on this topic, I managed to dig up yet more evidence supporting the claim that there are zero factory VW turbo-diesel pickup trucks...
In VW of America's pamphlet: "Introductory Service Training Information: The 1983 Rabbits", pages 4-5 give an overview of the Rabbit sedan models (excluding the Rabbit GTI covered in a different section), and it lists four available engine options: the 1.7 fuel injected gasser, 1.7 carburated gasser, 1.6lNA diesel, and 1.6 turbo-diesel. (The turbo-diesel is also noted as a "new option" for this model year.) The Pick up model is then overviewed on pages 6-7, but for that model there are only two engine options listed: the 1.7 liter Fuel injected Gasoline and the 1.6l naturally aspirated Diesel as engine options (turbo diesel option is not listed.)
If you need more evidence, someone needs to find a Rabbit Pickup truck owner's manual and report back here if it mentions a turbo-diesel engine option. (I checked my 1984 owner's manual which does list a turbo-diesel engine option, but it only covers the Rabbit sedan.)
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#8
by
fspGTD
on 20 Mar, 2006 22:39
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The first TD was in the Golf MK1 so this is before '83, the TD-engine has never been in the caddy in europe. I don't know about amerika.
Although you are right that it was 1983 when the 1.6lTD made its first transverse format appearance, it actually was introduced as a longitudinal engine option for the Quantum model back in 1982.
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#9
by
mortskeg
on 22 Mar, 2006 01:17
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...someone needs to find a Rabbit Pickup truck owner's manual and report back here if it mentions a turbo-diesel engine option. (I checked my 1984 owner's manual which does list a turbo-diesel engine option, but it only covers the Rabbit sedan.)
Def. not an option in '81, and I doubt that it ever existed unless it was for someone who knew someone at the westmoreland factory.
Anyone with an 83 man?
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#10
by
Maarten
on 22 Mar, 2006 04:03
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www.doppel-wobber.de (info on Golf only)
Golf 1 => motoren scroll down to the diesel table
CY 08.81-07.84
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#11
by
BlackTieTD
on 22 Mar, 2006 08:09
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www.doppel-wobber.de (info on Golf only)
Golf 1 => motoren scroll down to the diesel table
CY 08.81-07.84
08/81 i believe that for european market for sure. usually you guys are a couple years ahead of us. i wonder though, were any caddies made with TDs over there? if so, that early? i've never heard of or seen photos of one...
etka isn't always right... but i'm sure a quick search on vortex will lead to the threads.. there were a couple
:lol: don't put so much faith in the vhortex, thats how rumours like these get around!
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#12
by
mortskeg
on 22 Mar, 2006 11:20
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No pickups in Europe until 85.
(The tooling was moved from PA in 84 I think).
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#13
by
Maarten
on 23 Mar, 2006 03:27
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BlackTieTD>
No TDs overhere either like I wrote above... I linked to doppel wobber only to show that the TD's were in a golf from '81.
No pickups in Europe until 85. (The tooling was moved from PA in 84 I think).
First pickups are late '84 overhere.. 9th/10th month or something like that.
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#14
by
Dennis Froelich
on 23 Mar, 2006 03:44
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I have a factory built 83 Rabbit Turbo Diesel. It is a GL model.