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January 29, 2014, 06:29:53 am

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Reply #1January 29, 2014, 05:59:54 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 05:59:54 pm »
Thanks!  :D
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Reply #2January 29, 2014, 07:05:04 pm

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 07:05:04 pm »
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes. I try to post the stuff that will be helpful. I have been wanting that disconnect for a second battery in the jeep project. I want to run a winch someday and now it is cost effective to buy that dead man switch, so I did :D

Thanks BTW

Reply #3January 30, 2014, 03:10:49 pm

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 03:10:49 pm »
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes. I try to post the stuff that will be helpful. I have been wanting that disconnect for a second battery in the jeep project. I want to run a winch someday and now it is cost effective to buy that dead man switch, so I did :D

Thanks BTW

Ah, yeah that is cost effective.

I just spent like $27 shipped for a 2nd hand Blue Sea 4-position switch (batt 1, batt 2, batt 1+2, none) for my cruiser.

Roughly following this plan: http://www.george4wd.taskled.com/auxbat.html

Shame there are no VW diesel engines in the USA that will power my land bruiser. I'm looking at an Isuzu 4BD1T swap some day. I hope.

Reply #4January 31, 2014, 01:37:01 am

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 01:37:01 am »
Yota diesel right here  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/4309899593.html
But if a 6Bt fits a 55, it's gotta fit an 80

Reply #5January 31, 2014, 05:13:50 am

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 05:13:50 am »
The Wiki that I just looked at had the highest power for one coming out of a V8 that was 228hp and 302ft/lbs...an ALH could be built to out do that easily.

Reply #6January 31, 2014, 06:48:31 am

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 06:48:31 am »
Yota diesel right here  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/4309899593.html
But if a 6Bt fits a 55, it's gotta fit an 80

No thanks. They are great engines but parts availability in the USA is pretty much zero.

6bt in an 80 has been done.

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Reply #7January 31, 2014, 08:27:20 am

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 08:27:20 am »
The Wiki that I just looked at had the highest power for one coming out of a V8 that was 228hp and 302ft/lbs...an ALH could be built to out do that easily.

I don't doubt that we could build an ALH that would have those specs measured on a crank dyno.

But i suspect that the torque curve would look a lot different from a 4BD1T with 30psi of boost.

(4BD1T being Isuzu's 3.9 MTDI from the 80's, originally specified with a paltry 7psi of boost that it never really achieved except at sea level. The head on those from the factory breathes as well as a ported 4BT head, so they say, and there are other nice features like all of the 'yota sensors thread right in, the cylinders are sleeved from the factory, etc)

Reply #8January 31, 2014, 01:41:04 pm

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 01:41:04 pm »
I was just letting you know that it was possible as you said nothing was available in the US. Those numbers should be easy to achieve at the wheels with an alh and the alh will weigh 1/2 as much as a 4b. It is all in what you want to do, but you just sounded uneducated in VW diesel power possibility with what you had posted.

Reply #9January 31, 2014, 08:21:53 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 08:21:53 pm »
sure but at what RPM would an ALh deliver 300ft/lb?

Reply #10January 31, 2014, 08:51:38 pm

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 08:51:38 pm »
^^ 2500-4000??

Reply #11January 31, 2014, 09:50:58 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 09:50:58 pm »
Doh! out of stock on my 2 5/8 hitch ball for $4 :(  At least they let me keep  the free shipping even though it dropped me under a hundred bucks.

Reply #12January 31, 2014, 10:04:05 pm

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 10:04:05 pm »
^^ 2500-4000??

What I'm implying is that one of the things that comes with the 2x as heavy 4BD is that the torque hump is a lot lower in the rpm scale.

Reply #13February 01, 2014, 05:51:00 am

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 05:51:00 am »
sure but at what RPM would an ALh deliver 300ft/lb?
It will be a different depending on what turbo, intake, exhaust, etc you use. Usually it won't vary too much from where the stock was if you don't change too much. I have seen figures online that state stock the alh has 149ft/lbs at 1900rpm and I have also seen numbers that say 177ft/lbs at 1,900-2,400 rpm. I don't know what a trustworthy number is as I haven't dynoed a stock alh. Malone tuning says stage 2 will yield around 228ft/lbs around 2,100 rpm. That is only a nozzle and tune upgrade...and stage 5 would get you into the 300ft/lbs range right at 2,500rpm. The cummins 4b that I can find has 105hp@2,300rpm and 265ft/lbs @1,600rpm. So for the 780 pound 4b that is roughly what you have vs the 360 pound alh. I would bet the alh would seem quicker with the stage 2 tune than the cummins would stock since it would be 1/2 the weight, more hp, and 37ft/lbs less torque.
My point was you said nothing was here and it is.

Reply #14February 01, 2014, 07:44:22 am

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2014, 07:44:22 am »
sure but at what RPM would an ALh deliver 300ft/lb?
It will be a different depending on what turbo, intake, exhaust, etc you use. Usually it won't vary too much from where the stock was if you don't change too much. I have seen figures online that state stock the alh has 149ft/lbs at 1900rpm and I have also seen numbers that say 177ft/lbs at 1,900-2,400 rpm. I don't know what a trustworthy number is as I haven't dynoed a stock alh. Malone tuning says stage 2 will yield around 228ft/lbs around 2,100 rpm. That is only a nozzle and tune upgrade...and stage 5 would get you into the 300ft/lbs range right at 2,500rpm. The cummins 4b that I can find has 105hp@2,300rpm and 265ft/lbs @1,600rpm. So for the 780 pound 4b that is roughly what you have vs the 360 pound alh. I would bet the alh would seem quicker with the stage 2 tune than the cummins would stock since it would be 1/2 the weight, more hp, and 37ft/lbs less torque.
My point was you said nothing was here and it is.

ok but you're still comparing a bone stock version of a similar engine to an ALH that has had a lot of money poured into it. isuzu 4bd1t with nothing but a td04hl-19t and an intercooler bolted on and the max fuel screw adjusted is closer to 380 ft/lb at 2000rpm. 4bd and 4bt are different engines, and the 4bd is the better engine. There are just a lot less of them out there.

At any rate i don't have the fabrication skills to devise a way of attaching an ALH to the A442F bell housing. but adapters for the isuzu are available.