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January 22, 2014, 03:41:16 am

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Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« on: January 22, 2014, 03:41:16 am »
Hey folks,

On my mk1 Jetta 1.6td  - I will be changing over from an auto trans to a 5 speed over March Break. ( vs spending my Break somewhere warm and where the yeast based liquids flow freely & cheaply  :'()

I have bought a  pretty ripe 1980 Can., german built Rabbit na diesel 5spd for the conversion donor ( pedals\shifter\trans etc).   I was planning on pulling the engine\ auto trans out of my mk1 jetta, then installing the donor standard trans on the engine and the dropping the whole drivetrain back in.

I'm assuming that it would be a lot easier to assemble\changeover the trans on the garage floor vs in the car. I do have access to a shop with floor hoists\ engine hoist etc.

Any suggestions or words of wisdom?

Also, I do have access to at least one mk2 diesel 020 trans ( maybe 2). Should I be looking at the  trans ratios\codes to see which one will suit my needs?  I drive mostly city but occasional highway, but I do make 5-12 hr highway road trips every few months. I did find that the  1.6td with the 010 was reving far too at 100-120kph (60- 70ish mph)

thanks
Aivars
« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 03:51:34 am by homerj1 »

Reply #1January 22, 2014, 05:05:40 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2014, 05:05:40 am »
I have the CHD 020 in my car, i believe the other diesel 020 is DFQ, not 100% sure though. My 1.9td in mk3 revs at 3900rpm going 110kmh on the highway. First gear is veeerrry short lol. Hope this helps :)
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Reply #2January 22, 2014, 05:48:54 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 05:48:54 am »
I have the CHD 020 in my car, i believe the other diesel 020 is DFQ, not 100% sure though. My 1.9td in mk3 revs at 3900rpm going 110kmh on the highway. First gear is veeerrry short lol. Hope this helps :)

Hey E.pickle

Thanks for the reply! I'd like to keep the revs down on the highway and am surprised at your rpms at 110.  I was hoping for a lowish 3 k at that speed  in the mk1?

Although my last ride - "super car #1" a 98 jetta tdi would rev low on the highway. ( like 3300 rpm at 120 kmph?)

Maybe my expectations are unrealistic?

Aivars

ps I used to spend some time in Windsor and Detroit during the late 80's - as a friend was taking is P.Eng from the the U of Windsor. Lots of fun, and also cross border activities.  
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Reply #3January 22, 2014, 06:04:11 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2014, 06:04:11 am »
do you have the trans codes for the 2 transmission u have available???  i would go with what ever is taller, around town u can always just stick to lower gears...
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Reply #4January 22, 2014, 06:14:49 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
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Reply #5January 22, 2014, 01:38:10 pm

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2014, 01:38:10 pm »
That large, heavy throttle cable out of the automatic is worth some money (if in good shape) to someone who needs one as I don't think they have been available for a lot of years. Don't throw it away.
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Reply #6January 23, 2014, 03:34:45 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 03:34:45 am »
That large, heavy throttle cable out of the automatic is worth some money (if in good shape) to someone who needs one as I don't think they have been available for a lot of years. Don't throw it away.

Thanks for the heads up.

 Do you mean the cable from the pedal to the trans, or the cable from the trans to the ip?

Reply #7January 23, 2014, 04:28:21 am

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 04:28:21 am »
trans to ip.  i think the other one is the same as any other mk1 automatic.
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Reply #8January 29, 2014, 01:59:43 pm

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 01:59:43 pm »
myself personally, i like the mk2 gasser econo-box trannies…

3.67 final drive, and .75 fifth gear…

some of the best ratios of any VW trans..
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Reply #9February 06, 2014, 12:15:53 pm

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 12:15:53 pm »
the 1980 ff 5 speed is 3k @72mph with 185/60-14s..

you gotta change steering rack too.. and all the diesel auto parts $$$ you also have goofy coolent hoses on the tranny to eliminate

Reply #10February 07, 2014, 09:01:20 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 09:01:20 am »
the 1980 ff 5 speed is 3k @72mph with 185/60-14s..

you gotta change steering rack too.. and all the diesel auto parts $$$ you also have goofy coolent hoses on the tranny to eliminate

NOOOOOOO!!!  :'(    Don't tell me I have to change the rack. Why?

Reply #11February 07, 2014, 09:49:40 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 09:49:40 am »
the 1980 ff 5 speed is 3k @72mph with 185/60-14s..

you gotta change steering rack too.. and all the diesel auto parts $$$ you also have goofy coolent hoses on the tranny to eliminate

NOOOOOOO!!!  :'(    Don't tell me I have to change the rack. Why?

the shift linkage is mounted to the steering rack
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Reply #12February 07, 2014, 10:02:54 am

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Re: Mk1 Jetta - 010 to 020 change over
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 10:02:54 am »
the 1980 ff 5 speed is 3k @72mph with 185/60-14s..

you gotta change steering rack too.. and all the diesel auto parts $$$ you also have goofy coolent hoses on the tranny to eliminate

NOOOOOOO!!!  :'(    Don't tell me I have to change the rack. Why?

the shift linkage is mounted to the steering rack


You guys have a great way of ruining a guy's Fri. aft   ;)

I'll have to check out the donor Rabbit I have for the bracket location on the rack - because I just checked the rack of my jetta and there seeming to be some sort of brackety thing in the middle of my rack - between the 2 mounting pts of the rack.


Reply #13February 07, 2014, 10:08:30 am

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 10:08:30 am »
I think it is 3 threaded holes cast into the rack body in the area you say it looks like something is there.
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Reply #14February 07, 2014, 12:33:47 pm

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2014, 12:33:47 pm »
I think it is 3 threaded holes cast into the rack body in the area you say it looks like something is there.

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