Author Topic: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather  (Read 4713 times)

January 06, 2014, 09:47:51 am

bbob203

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1789
Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« on: January 06, 2014, 09:47:51 am »
0*f my mk2 shifts like it has playdough in the transmission. I thought everyone swore by this stuff for the 020?
92 Passat wagon M-TDi
03 Jetta wagon TDi
VE Timing tools for rent
Need a car transported a long distance? Pm me for details.

Reply #1January 06, 2014, 11:51:54 am

wolf_walker

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1205
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 11:51:54 am »
Redline for me for years.  Haven't been that cold, but considering the age/wear of most of my 020's they have shifted alright into the low to mid teens.
Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become ignorant.
Mentat Text Two

Reply #2January 06, 2014, 03:23:33 pm

Enslaved_Pickle

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 45
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 03:23:33 pm »
I used redline in my first 020 last feb until july when the diff blew apart, shifted like butter <3

Still using it on my now 2nd 020 and it doesn't shift quite as smoothly as the first one did, it feel more like playdough like you said. Mileage may have something to do with it? I think so, but thats my .2, hope this helps
Mk3 1.9L turbo diesel rat

Reply #3January 06, 2014, 04:27:57 pm

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 04:27:57 pm »
I used the new G70 VW and syncro mesh no issues, but I am not driving it at 0f, but did several thousand on the same trans that cold or colder with royal purple and syncromesh blend no issues what so ever.

Reply #4January 07, 2014, 04:35:43 am

RabbitJockey

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 5104
  • Personal Text
    America, DUCK YEAH!!!
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 04:35:43 am »
i have syncromesh in my mk4 and it shifts perfectly.  feels the same as any other temp
01 Jetta TDI 100% stock daily
81 Rabbit:TDI-M ported head, Frank06 cam, PD intake, hybrid T3 turbo, Renault intercooler, Syl20 11mm pump, light weight fw, and yellow California Clutch clutch kit

Reply #5January 07, 2014, 09:09:46 pm

ToddA1

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 434
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2014, 09:09:46 pm »
 Synchromesh is in my 02A and shifted fine this morning at 3°F.

-Todd

Reply #6January 08, 2014, 06:18:21 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 06:18:21 am »
could be the condition of the trans more than the oil used.

Reply #7January 08, 2014, 06:30:02 am

bbob203

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1789
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 06:30:02 am »
What about the condition would cause it? Above 15* its fine tiny bit sluggish but frees up quick. When I had the case off it looked great.
92 Passat wagon M-TDi
03 Jetta wagon TDi
VE Timing tools for rent
Need a car transported a long distance? Pm me for details.

Reply #8January 08, 2014, 06:50:21 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2014, 06:50:21 am »
synchronizers could be worn not stopping the shaft as good as it should is probably what is going on.

Reply #9January 08, 2014, 06:52:42 am

air-cooled or diesel

  • Guest
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 06:52:42 am »
for 'extremely' cold starts, let warm up at a fast idle for 2-3 minutes, hopefully can help.
I run amsoil gl-4, no real problems, the other day it was fine @-2f, yesterday at 3f it was making some more noise at first as I got going. I don't know how much of the noise was trans, but it shifted fine. cleared up in a min or 2.

Reply #10January 08, 2014, 07:02:36 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2014, 07:02:36 am »
FWIW, You didn't specify that it quit, so I was taking it that it continued all drive. If it is just when you first start out like the guy above stated, then let your car warm up a bit. If it is 0f out I go at least 10 minutes before driving. 99% of the engine wear is at cold start, which is extended when it is so cold out. Let stuff warm up a bit. Also for your trans, don't try to speed shift without driving it 20 minutes or so in this weather...I hope you already knew this.

Reply #11January 08, 2014, 11:47:12 am

8v-of-fury!

  • Guest
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 11:47:12 am »
Double clutching is SUPER EFFECTIVE when it is cold out..

Reply #12January 08, 2014, 03:48:53 pm

wolf_walker

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1205
Re: Syncromesh=playdough in cold weather
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2014, 03:48:53 pm »
Yeah, the first few miles are like 2-3 seconds between gears on most of the 020's I've had when it's really cold. 
Takes an experienced hand to not be unkind to the old things.
Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become ignorant.
Mentat Text Two

Reply #13January 08, 2014, 08:40:55 pm

vanbcguy

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 2825
  • Personal Text
    Vancouver, BC
Re:
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2014, 08:40:55 pm »
I haven't had a working 2nd gear synchro in about 4 years. Double clutching is my life!
Bryn

1994 Jetta - AHU M-TDI - Jezebel Jetta
2004 Jetta Wagon - 1.8T - Blitzen