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October 20, 2013, 01:31:07 am

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belts, for mk?,2 a/c alt set-up
« on: October 20, 2013, 01:31:07 am »
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my trick is using NAPA belts-premium. both the a/c and alt belts not being the smallest you can fit. personally I go 1 size larger than the minimum or if a belt is just (barely) too small go 1 size larger. you want the play to be in the middle of the adjustment (to start). the a/c/water pump belt needs to be tighter than alternator(alt) belt. my a/c belt keeps on loosening (a little is all, so no real worries. maybe I didn't clean-up pulley(s) perfectly, maybe I don't have it quite tight enough to start, in any case). alt belt when 1st installed should be rather (NOT TO, but kind of) tight. as it loosens some as long as alt fan as pushed by thumb has some resistance I just leave it (not too loose now). if it loosens 1st make sure all pulleys are clean, then tighten to tight (takes some pressure to turn alt pulley with thumb; by some I mean alt belt is tight /some pressure/. if when it loosens some make sure there is always moderate pressure to turn pulley(by fan). this has worked for me for a few years now. maybe it'll work for you!
I did check my belt sizes. NAPA #'s 25-9365 a/c, 25-7265 alt. this works for me! this may not work exactly for you I described above to have 1 size bigger than the smallest that will fit; give or take some. this means a belt possibly can be just too small to go 1 size bigger. in any case another way to describe it is a/c belt can be smaller the 1/2 of the adjustment(not a lot though), and alt belt can be right near the middle of adjustment. well that's how I run; and she runs goood. some hiccups, like us all. ,to be edited

Reply #1October 20, 2013, 01:32:22 am

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Re: belts, for mk?,2 a/c alt set-up
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 01:32:22 am »
xx05toxx10 difference for stock,,possibly,?both belts.,
meaning can vary for your car/set-up.
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Reply #2October 20, 2013, 01:16:25 pm

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 01:16:25 pm »
i always run the SMALLEST belt i can get on the pulleys..

that way, you get to use the full range of the adjusters, rather than half..

remember, the belt stretches a tid bit, and they also wear to the contours of your pulleys..

my GTI takes a 6PK1040 belt, but im running a mk3/TDI/VR6 accessory drive setup.

VR6 w/p pulley, TDI 120 amp alternator, and mk3 2.0 harmonic balancer...

no a/c or p/s tho...
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Reply #3October 20, 2013, 02:52:45 pm

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Do you have a W terminal on that 120A alt?
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Reply #4October 21, 2013, 09:32:18 am

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Re: belts, for mk?,2 a/c alt set-up
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 09:32:18 am »
either im seeing things or Someone's   , either way, oh maybe its this,, or,
in any case, I did notice 1 more thing, ill post it.
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Reply #5October 24, 2013, 08:37:05 am

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 08:37:05 am »
iwas,, tending to keep play near middle, to start.
 the alt belt I was saying, if you keep on tightening it, (for me I will always be snugging it up,repeatedly). as long as I have good charge, check at alt, let it run a little loose, for me right now, it just keeps on runnin.
running a bosch helps, I have an old generic alt 12 years old still putting out 13.8v at full draw, utility use right now.
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Reply #6October 24, 2013, 11:42:06 am

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 11:42:06 am »
I use the smallest possible gates belts I can get on. In Order to get ac to crank belt on I have to remove the harmonic balancer. The gates belts seem to be the best.
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Reply #7October 24, 2013, 01:27:50 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 01:27:50 pm »
napa, are gates belts, check price,

Reply #8October 24, 2013, 01:28:53 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 01:28:53 pm »
I just put a new set on last summer, I let you know,

Reply #9October 25, 2013, 03:02:56 pm

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 03:02:56 pm »
Do you have a W terminal on that 120A alt?

YES!!
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86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #10October 25, 2013, 03:04:35 pm

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 03:04:35 pm »
I use the smallest possible gates belts I can get on. In Order to get ac to crank belt on I have to remove the harmonic balancer. The gates belts seem to be the best.

Same, alot of times, i have to pull the WP or or crank pulley, on the cars that still have v-belts..

im a firm supporter of the serpentine setup tho!!

no looking back since i converted all my gassers..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11October 25, 2013, 05:27:32 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 05:27:32 pm »
Do you have a W terminal on that 120A alt?

YES!!

Was it added afterwards or is there a p/n for a 120A with a W?
Bryn

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Reply #12October 27, 2013, 09:31:32 am

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Don't you lose ac on a 1.6 going to serpentine?
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Reply #13October 27, 2013, 10:54:25 am

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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 10:54:25 am »
Do you have a W terminal on that 120A alt?

YES!!

Was it added afterwards or is there a p/n for a 120A with a W?

Its factory stock, from 1996..

i can get you a p/n later..

D shaped plug for D+ also has W term..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #14October 27, 2013, 06:15:11 pm

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Re: belts, for mk?,2 a/c alt set-up
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 06:15:11 pm »
Do you have a W terminal on that 120A alt?

YES!!

Was it added afterwards or is there a p/n for a 120A with a W?

Its factory stock, from 1996..

i can get you a p/n later..

D shaped plug for D+ also has W term..

Same with my 1998 AHU 120A alternator Bryn.