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#75
by
RabbitJockey
on 30 Oct, 2013 11:35
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I will say after toying around with my girlfriends mk4 ALH this past week doing the tbelt and messing with vag com I've come to more appreciate the electronic system. my problem with the people on TDI club however is they do not want to think outside their box whatsoever anything against the status quo over there gets your head cut off. I'm considering going electronic on my Passat just for something to do this winter. I still plan on keeping my mechanical pump so when the Chinese start blasting us with EMP.
thats what i don't like, they're all stuck in a box doing all the same mods, making all these posts like they're engineers and half of what they say is irrelevant or exaggerated or wrong.
This.This.This. I do read a lot over there, since we do have a TDI now, but some of the regurgitated false information just frustrates me. Its a whole clan of sheeple over there for the most part. Diesel is the best ever. And those old IDI diesels are scarrrrrry. A lot of times I look for people posting about IDIs just so I can direct them here. There are a few people over there who know a bit about IDIs but not many.
I will say that I do appreciate the electronics in the TDI. It is nice to hook up VAG-COM and get information on problems. But there are some problems that don't throw a code, and when that happens, it can really suck to track down. We've had a cold starting problem off and on in my husband's TDI that we can't track down. Its been fine lately, but we'll see once it gets colder this fall if it comes back. We have our '84 TD and an '01 TDI. They both have their pros and cons. But the mk1 is definitely much more fun. We'll be getting rid of the mk4 long before that mk1 goes anywhere
i also think when most of them are comparing an idi to a tdi, it is comparing an old 1.6na or 1.6td to a tdi which is .3l more displacement and an intercooler.
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#76
by
Smoker
on 30 Oct, 2013 18:24
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thats his true opinion sadly...
look at it like this... his m pumps are combo of other pumps....
8v played that game... finally slapped a rover pump on and it came to life.....
so i honestly think he needs to play with a few real tdi-m pumps... then see his opinion change...
for serious???
1. this is shocking to me, considering his reputation for being one of the most knowledgeable people out there.
2. shouldn't this opinion be extremely easy to disprove?? surely someone with an m-tdi has a dyno sheet, timeslip, something...
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#77
by
CRSMP5
on 30 Oct, 2013 22:11
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yes and why i feel shocked with his opinion on it..
but if he does it like how 8v did when he did his 1st.. ok.. i get it... so yes i wonder what true tdi m style pumps he has seen in stock form...
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#78
by
8v-of-fury
on 30 Oct, 2013 22:57
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I am confident I could build a full on powerful DI pump from even a 1.6 NA pump right now. I have the know-how that I lacked when I started.
Literally not much different inside of ALL THESE VE pumps..
I'd need an 11mm head, and a welder. The rest? stock 1.6 NA pump.
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#79
by
One_punchmachinegun
on 31 Oct, 2013 00:01
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Hmm... I like where you are going with this..
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#80
by
bbob203
on 31 Oct, 2013 07:44
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Whats the welder for?
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#81
by
RabbitJockey
on 31 Oct, 2013 07:49
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i think his point was more like, 2 comparable pumps etdi and mtdi, with same cam plate and plunger and timing advance range would make about the same power.
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#82
by
theman53
on 31 Oct, 2013 07:49
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I would guess the arm that moves the governor assembly
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#83
by
8v-of-fury
on 31 Oct, 2013 12:03
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Whats the welder for?
I would guess the arm that moves the governor assembly
That is one reason
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#84
by
8v-of-fury
on 31 Oct, 2013 12:04
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i think his point was more like, 2 comparable pumps etdi and mtdi, with same cam plate and plunger and timing advance range would make about the same power.
They should. If all the "injection" parts are the same.. it should pump the same.
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#85
by
One_punchmachinegun
on 31 Oct, 2013 13:28
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I feel like it would be easier to get a CAD design made up and have them produced ,the top part of the housing that is. And just have them bolt right up.. Welding everything seems like it would be tough, and not only that but making sure you get all the measurement just right. To have them produced would initially cost quite a bit. But once they are up and going, probably good money. But also, wouldn't it be easier to get what is needed into a 1.6/1.9 idi pump?
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#86
by
theman53
on 31 Oct, 2013 13:56
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I have a source that it would not be expensive
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#87
by
snakemaster
on 31 Oct, 2013 17:11
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how cares what thay think , eat sleep MTDI it just dont get beter , if the car is a keeper 1.9 etdi i take the pump of and fit a pump that i have built , its far beter all round MTDI , and when the PDs come in cheep pull the motor and fit a 1.9 MTDI
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#88
by
One_punchmachinegun
on 31 Oct, 2013 18:10
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I have a source that it would not be expensive
Why hasn't this started up? Demand problem?
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#89
by
745 turbogreasel
on 31 Oct, 2013 19:53
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