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Reply #15October 14, 2013, 09:23:26 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2013, 09:23:26 pm »
I'm truly baffled by all the nastiness coming from the E-crowd on this topic.  Ignorance is a dish best served alone. 

It reminds me of the sentiment on the Samba that diesel destroys transmissions.

Reply #16October 14, 2013, 11:54:22 pm

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2013, 11:54:22 pm »
I'm truly baffled by all the nastiness coming from the E-crowd on this topic.  Ignorance is a dish best served alone. 

It reminds me of the sentiment on the Samba that diesel destroys transmissions.

Exactly. 
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Reply #17October 15, 2013, 07:28:49 am

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 07:28:49 am »
I love VNT turbos, I really enjoy computers, programming and electronics and my farts smell awesome.  "Everyone Likes their own brand."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_BGyLZhY40

haha i do as well, i actually went to a vocational high school for electronics and work with electronics every single day.

my farts smell like a fresh loaf straight from the oven, whats not to enjoy?

also i have driven diesel vws for almost 10 years now and i have never had any problems with a transmission.
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Reply #18October 15, 2013, 10:25:58 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 10:25:58 pm »
I'm an e-Tdi swapper because I like reliable performance and trouble shooting. I've poked around here for a while and I know there are numerous mtdi pump build threads. I've seen a good number of mtdi low performance threads on the Tdi club. If it was so straight forward and easy to build an mtdi pump wouldn't there be a simple source for the mtdi pump? Pay $700-$1000 and be done. If people built a list of all the ingredients: x injectors, such and such turbo with this guys mtdi pump and you will have 1?? whp and 2??wtq I bet you would make a lot believers. I would be one  

The people that report good results are the ultra hardcore gdi peeps.

Reply #19October 15, 2013, 10:35:14 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 10:35:14 pm »
 ::)

why my rover pump experiance kills all that... cheap, damb near bolt on.. the gov mod is simple.. not like opening rest up.. and on stock tdi.. a e way slower.... add 50 hp... right now...

Reply #20October 15, 2013, 10:54:37 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 10:54:37 pm »
They have their cool license plate frames though... We should get our own.

Reply #21October 15, 2013, 11:40:45 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 11:40:45 pm »
But I love my cruise control.   Really I just a couple of Rover pumps to put in Caddies, we'll see!

Reply #22October 15, 2013, 11:45:39 pm

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 11:45:39 pm »
::)

why my rover pump experiance kills all that... cheap, damb near bolt on.. the gov mod is simple.. not like opening rest up.. and on stock tdi.. a e way slower.... add 50 hp... right now...

Make a quick and simple list of the parts to make x amount of power. Post it up with some of your experience, iirc your thread is uber long. newbies need the reader digest version:) I'll be happy to add it to the tdiswap list and make it stand out.


I like my cc and license plate frame, it works on my car. If you came up with one that worked with my plate i'd rock it.

Reply #23October 16, 2013, 12:46:28 am

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2013, 12:46:28 am »
There are no changes necessary to the internals of the Land Rover pump to make considerably better power than a stock eTDI.  Any nozzle change suggestions for eTDIs for a given amount of boost apply directly to mTDIs.

Reply #24October 16, 2013, 01:18:45 am

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2013, 01:18:45 am »
it is just like fitting a mk4 pump on a mk3... pics on tdi club... pully/mount mods..

gov mod in 8v sig..

fab some type of throttle cable mount/linkage

fab the rear under line mount... or swap it..

swap delevery valves

mine is timmed at 118.. im real happy with it and still not touched it.. i hear 130-150 good.. but never tried.. if happy why mess with it imo.. same on fuel screw and boost pin... still on stock settings even w/gov mod... makes very little soot.. and egts only exceeded 1250 1 time... and blew the turbo in this moment... drove turbo aditional 5k before i figured out that i blew it!! toweed car home and all... :D

im real happy with my tdi m

and when i got mine.. 200ish ebay uk... what guy paid for it that i got it from.. i manned up to play guini pig.. and impressed with doing it..

mr herb... cruise is cake... upgrade section i have a thread on stock vw cruise... the only issue.. throttle springs too strong for the vac ball.. so need to experiment with them to reduce that aspect a tad.. i keep telling bbob thats why his no work... 1.6 throttle lever has softer springs then my rover pump or his libby pump.. and for how tight my rope/dead mans cruise worked i can see that as why.. (lack vw speedo head fo vw  cruise)

i think cross planting a mk3 gasser cruise to tdi e harness would get you cruise on a mk3 tdi-m... so no reason at all it cannot work.. else mk1/mk2 vanagon and such can use that part list.. :D
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Reply #25October 16, 2013, 01:25:13 am

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2013, 01:25:13 am »
Cruise control works on manual pumps, too. 
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Reply #26October 16, 2013, 07:37:21 am

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2013, 07:37:21 am »
CRS you gotta watch. I still haven't confirmed that tidbit about the cruise. I really don't think thats my problem.
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Reply #27October 16, 2013, 09:52:01 am

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Re: Tdiclubers hate mtdi!!
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2013, 09:52:01 am »
While the governor mod will increase high rpm power, the stock Land Rover governor spring gives the full rpm range of the eTDI. 

Reply #28October 16, 2013, 10:04:37 am

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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2013, 10:04:37 am »
While the governor mod will increase high rpm power, the stock Land Rover governor spring gives the full rpm range of the eTDI. 

Could it be done on my pump?
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Reply #29October 16, 2013, 10:49:52 am

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2013, 10:49:52 am »
Not exactly, the Cummins governor spring setup is different (uncaged) and cannot be shimmed in that way.  I do have a slightly shorter and stronger uncaged governor spring that I would be willing to send to you to try if you want.  The shorter/stronger spring gives the same effect as shimming the caged governor spring. 

 

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