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October 01, 2013, 02:57:35 pm

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Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« on: October 01, 2013, 02:57:35 pm »
I think i have found the source of my turbo issues. Im boosting well over 25+ psi... I was originally using a regulator for a boost controller and had the boost gauge running off that so i was oblivious that the intake pressure was well over what my boost guage was reading. When i was just out at Andrews I re routed my boost guage line to read off i/c pipe pressure and installed a ball and spring type boost controller. My intention was to adjust and tune whilst driving home from arizona. No matter what i did i could not get the boost turned down.. my gauge only reads up to 20 psi and it is going way beyond that on full pedal/load up an incline etc so im suspecting <25. I tried to test my waste gate opening pressure today with a pump and it wouldn't open. Should i try to adjust it?


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Reply #1October 01, 2013, 03:20:20 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 03:20:20 pm »
that happens to the k14... i doubt they screw with those wastegates also as there is no replacements...

how did you plunmb it up?? manifold to regulator, same side has t for gauge.. other side goes to wastegate..

Reply #2October 01, 2013, 03:24:11 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 03:24:11 pm »
plumbed the gauge from the top fitting on the regulator.
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Reply #3October 01, 2013, 03:28:25 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 03:28:25 pm »
ohhh yea forgot you used the gauge on fiitting on the regulaor.. see i told you to use a t

12 mo warentee on turbo... so talk to them... but i assume they did not take it apart as to break it ruins the turbo as no parts...

Reply #4October 01, 2013, 03:53:49 pm

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 03:53:49 pm »
Yea would've been nice to know that when i spent the 200 bucks on it..  ::)   any other way to make it work so it isnt boosting so much..
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Reply #5October 01, 2013, 10:04:00 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 10:04:00 pm »
took the turbo/ exhaust mani off this afternoon was succesful in removing 2/3 of the bolts holding it on third one isnt a lost cause yet. Hopefully will be getting a replacement wastegate from rust caddy if i cant get this one freed up.
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Reply #6October 01, 2013, 10:10:22 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 10:10:22 pm »
You should be able to once you get it out. I want to say Jake had a writeup from early 2000's that detailed how to.

Reply #7October 01, 2013, 10:10:35 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 10:10:35 pm »
Did you squirt penetrating oil into the boost fitting on the wastegate?  Did you back off the adjuster on the end?

Reply #8October 02, 2013, 07:55:01 am

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 07:55:01 am »
ah didn't even think to do that w/ penetrating oil.  :-[ This sucker has to be pretty stuck though because it was ultra sonic cleaned when it was rebuilt. You would think that would do it.
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Reply #9October 02, 2013, 11:02:29 am

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 11:02:29 am »
well i pullled the exhaust side off the rest of the turbo and i got all the bolts out succesfully  8). Waste gate is loose but i cant pull it out of the exhasut housing im soaking it with some pb blaster and heating it only have a map gas torch though.
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Reply #10October 02, 2013, 11:28:14 am

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 11:28:14 am »
got it out!! its seized though permanently too i think.. 
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Reply #11October 02, 2013, 12:37:56 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 12:37:56 pm »
Success!! its freed up and working ! They must have known they would freeze up because there is a 8mm allen in the wastegate valve head. To free it up a used a deadblow hammer to pound the valve down soaked with pb then twisted it with an 8mm repeatedly until i could push it down with my hands. I suppose as regular maintenance i will spray some oil into it now and again.
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Reply #12October 02, 2013, 02:14:20 pm

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 02:14:20 pm »
Now is the best time to use valve lapping paste to clean of the seat in the turbine housing.

Reply #13October 02, 2013, 08:34:24 pm

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Re: Wastegate stuck or was tightened to much by the rebuilder
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 08:34:24 pm »
Now is the best time to use valve lapping paste to clean of the seat in the turbine housing.

This was in the post of *I think* JakesFSPD or something like that. He was losing 5 psi at 20 psi of boost through the wastegate or something similar. After he was done it was around 1 psi or something. That was way back in the day, but a good post. Some like Libby and others may do it on their own or have been around and remember it like I did.

found the guy  name is fspGTD
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=3252.0
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=1841.0

Reply #14October 02, 2013, 09:02:57 pm

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 09:02:57 pm »
I lapped it smooth as I could get it as it was slightly pitted in a few spots. Went and bought a few stainless socket cap bolts cleaned it up chased the threads and bolted it in. Tomorrow I will get it all put back together and see how it runs. Knowing that the wastegate it free and working I guess I wont need a boost controller? I can just set the wastegate to open at the desired pressure?
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