My 84 1.6 - Help wont start

[air-cooled or diesel]

id have grabbed that piston and lifted it all the way out... may be broken at the wrist pin... so lift it up and out.. lets see what you got..

connecting rod may have come apart, maybe bolts around big end where connects to crank?
when you pull out (piston)be a little careful, don't just yank, if block is still good it doesn't make sense to put more damage to engine.
real sorry to see this, looks bad at this point, keep your head up and hope for the best all isn't lost yet, its good experience if nothing else. the person who put this together was an ass, now you have the privilege of cleaning up his mess.

[CRSMP5]

what if #4 has so much ring carbon.. it snapped the piston when he went to turn it over...

again.. lift that puppy out..

i could not decide if piston or lines installed best part of that pic..

[air-cooled or diesel]

i donno, from pic I see there isn't too much carbon build-up, and piston looks in 1 piece from this angle, at least what we see of it, when he sends next pic we'll have more info. whatever it is, it doesn't look good

[atherton213]

it was a tight fit, they kinda moved out of the way... didnt bend them or anything.  More room would have been nicer though lol

It doesnt just pull out, so to save anything from getting damaged more im just gonna pull the pan and look from the bottom.

[Jetmugg]

It's time to pull the engine and trans out of the car.  Much, much, much easier to work on that way.  

How much do you like this car (that's a question with a $dollar amount answer)?

You are going to have some choices to make. You might be able to get by on the cheap, only replacing the bare minimum of parts that need to be replaced.  Maybe a couple of hundred bucks, and you are rolling again.  It's a crapshoot at that point.

If you want to keep the car, pull the whole engnine apart and take it to a good machine shop that has VW experience (preferably diesel).  It won't be cheap.

Most of us have collections of used but usable parts - if you decide to go the cheap route, we can help.

Steve.

[air-cooled or diesel]

it was a tight fit, they kinda moved out of the way... didnt bend them or anything.  More room would have been nicer though lol

i hope you didn't bend any of them, other wise your up ***s creek

[atherton213]

for now its the cheap route.  Im on a budget  

This car when running is going to get new paint/wheels and interior eventually.  Its a project without a time line

nope didnt bend any of them btw

[atherton213]

been a while since i was able to really work on this... birthday and such passed recently so ive been occupied on my weekends.  Aside from a trip to disney in a few weeks my weekends are free to work on this 

sooo its looking bad though... dropped the pan, which was full of parts and popped the piston out from under the car

walls of the block look ok, small scoring mark towards the bottom... dont know how bad that is? its not very deep


but then i get under the car and i see this, small crack.  again dont know if this is a "motors toast" thing or i might be ok?


this must have made a horrible noise I feel when it died...

[CrazyAndy]

I'm afraid that crack has doomed the engine; it looks like the rod or piston might have hit the side of the cylinder when the rod bent.  It doesn't matter now, since that crack is too deep and crack damage would go deep into the cylinder wall metal anyway.  If you wish to keep the car I would advise searching for a good motor.

[atherton213]

i really want to keep this car a diesel... a 2.0 motor is just really cheap though...

I guess if i can find a solid used 1.6 short block... ive got all the rest of the stuff

sooooo if anyone has/knows of a place to get a solid used short block (as cheap as possible)

[8v-of-fury]

Nothing wrong with swapping in a gas engine if you have the ability. It will take some work, but if its budget approved.. you can always go back to diesel down the road.

[atherton213]

im on the hunt for a short block... if i can get one cheap i can stay diesel... there is places online with some but they are all over $1000... i can get a whole 2.0 for about $4-500 ish (although im sure ill need a lot to make it work right)

if i can pickup a short block for like $300 ish im gonna do that

[ORCoaster]

Check you PM box.  link to a possible for you.