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Reply #15June 17, 2013, 12:00:31 pm

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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2013, 12:00:31 pm »
Well, I gave that a shot, and I am not happy. For a good half an hour all I have been saying is " I'm done, I'm not working on any cars any more." " This is bull@$%!, I hate $&@%+?! hate working on cars. I'm going to burn them all to the #&@+#%?! Ground."
And lets just say I really don't curse all that much...at all.

Ok, well after giving it a shot the way I seen it in those pictures, I had to remove the rear engine mount. That went fine, installed everything. Seemed to go well. But as soon as I went to put the mount back on there is no way to get the mount back on. Not enough clearance with the oil line there. So I tried to force it. Well I'm pretty sure I'm going to loose a finger nail.
So I think I need to go back to the other oil pan. But not all sure how well that is going to go either.

Other examples of how these should sit would be great.
I do thank all of you for you help so far.
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Reply #16June 17, 2013, 12:19:30 pm

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2013, 12:19:30 pm »
cut the flex part and make new one??

Reply #17June 17, 2013, 12:40:06 pm

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2013, 12:40:06 pm »
I have been thinking that. But last time I made my own. I had leaking issues that pee'd me off to.
Is there any way of going about making your own other than braided steel?
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Reply #18June 17, 2013, 12:47:10 pm

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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2013, 12:47:10 pm »
the flex is for thermal expansion.. else it would be solid.. but if you went to a place that di dhydro hoses fo requipment they should be able to add a piece in of the size you seek.. take a dremal and cut the crimps down both sides.. pup crimps off.. then you can remove th ehose from the pipes.. 

then with a piece of heaterhose.. figure ou thow long it needs to be.. then take to them to crimp in a nice piece of hose..:D 

Reply #19June 17, 2013, 03:47:56 pm

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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 03:47:56 pm »
My two MK2 TDs have the 1-o'clock flange on the oil-pan and the line goes behind the aluminum mount.


Reply #20June 17, 2013, 08:22:58 pm

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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 08:22:58 pm »
Hahahahahajaj....

That's not funny. I wonder if the mount is different. I wonder if I could modify the mount to fit the line behind.

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Reply #21June 17, 2013, 08:50:05 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 08:50:05 pm »
As I have a vanagon and a K14, I can't help much but I can try. . .

- The drain has zero pressure so all you need is a hose rated for oil and temps around 350 (some safety factor there).
- The hose provides some flex and the only reason you need flex is because of thermal expansion and vibration.
- The turbo/oil pan/block are basically one solid chunk of stuff. Copper will work to get things clocked correctly (as in the photo I posted) but I'd keep it real short as it can work harden just from vibration, then it could crack. Ideally I'd use steel but you gotta work with what you have.
- The drain needs to be at 6:00 because oil that doesn't "drain" leaks.
- The place to attach it needs to be lower than the output & the lower it is the better, but not a big deal because it's being pushed by the pump.

My 2 sense.
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Reply #22June 17, 2013, 09:06:48 pm

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 09:06:48 pm »
Thanks. I most likely be taking the route of making my own.
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Reply #23June 17, 2013, 09:26:42 pm

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 09:26:42 pm »
Thanks. I most likely be taking the route of making my own.
Now you're talkin
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Reply #24June 17, 2013, 11:47:04 pm

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 11:47:04 pm »
What year is your car? Was it originally a NA? I've heard that they have a different rear mount compared to a TD.
Tyler

Reply #25June 18, 2013, 12:01:43 am

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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 12:01:43 am »
my b3.. 83 1.6td set up.. 16v rear mount from 9a in passat.. pulled that engine.. reused its mount.. may be me ears smaller?

Reply #26June 18, 2013, 12:13:17 am

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 12:13:17 am »
theman.. ohhh theman... take pic where yours hits... theman made up plate steel rear mounts for vnt apps.. his may clear your issue..

Reply #27June 18, 2013, 12:29:11 am

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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2013, 12:29:11 am »
Yes, originally a N/A, it's a 89. I was going to attempt my other rear mount thinking that it was from a TD but I then remembered it was also from a N/A I just made a line because I didn't have a stock return line.
I've been thinking that they are different but it couldn't be that different due to the fact it would make the engine have an offset in the bay.
 It's closer to clearing at the top then the bottom. The bottom of the mount would really need to be different.
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Reply #28June 18, 2013, 09:21:10 am

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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 09:21:10 am »
nope, I don't think it would work. I have those flat stock pieces flat to the block. I suppose if it was really thin line it could sneak behind. I welded a JIC fitting to my NA pan at a 45 angle toward the driver side of the car. Custom hose 5/8" ID and it works fine.

Reply #29June 18, 2013, 11:20:08 am

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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 11:20:08 am »
So I called the dealer out of curiosity, wondering if there are two different mounts. Turns out the mounts I have are not the correct mounts. The turbo diesel and 16v had the same mounts but it seems the n/a had a slightly different one, but it was weird because when I originally asked about the part he said they should be the same. They even came up in the system the same. So I asked for the part number and it came out different. I told him mine and that looped back to the correct mount that is for the TD and the 16v. He said that the mount must have been from the earlier models but the mount I ended up trying was from a 91 jetta. So I dont believe that all that much. So for future reference the mounts are different.. He guy told me to notch the mount and I would be good.  So that's what I'm going to do.
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