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June 04, 2013, 08:18:50 pm

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Stuck injector
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Anyone ever have this problem? Stripping the head down for a rebuild, I got two injectors out, one is being a little stubborn and one I can't budge AT ALL. Soaked it in pb blaster overnight... nothing. Soaked it in ATF the next night... nothing. Open-end wrench and a hammer... nothing.  It's in my freezer right now, for lack of a better idea. Any help?



Reply #1June 04, 2013, 08:29:34 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 08:29:34 pm »
Heat it up with a torch, I use two propane ones, then throw some penetrating oil on it while it's still warm, let it sit overnight, heat it up again and unscrew.  Careful not to put any angled pressure on the injectors as you risk cracking the head.
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Reply #2June 04, 2013, 08:35:05 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 08:35:05 pm »
This is the TDI forum.  The injectors are not threaded in, they are held in with a little clamp.  Don't bother heating.  This is what I use:



I bought a nut that was the thread of the injector union, a coupler nut and a jam nut the thread of the slide hammer I already had.  I welded the injector nut to the coupler nut.  Less than $10 and 2 minutes with the welder.  It works VERY well EVERY time.

Reply #3June 04, 2013, 10:06:00 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 10:06:00 pm »
probably #3 isn't it? I like the slide hammer idea. I know 2 different guys that had to beat it out and ruin the nozzle as they had no idea how to get it out otherwise. And it didn't come out easily that way.

Reply #4June 04, 2013, 10:09:56 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 10:09:56 pm »
I've pulled injectors in seconds that were totally encased in carbon from a leaky copper washer. 

Reply #5June 04, 2013, 10:11:47 pm

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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 10:11:47 pm »
ive made slide hammer piece... only works when you got head bolted down to something... but works well...

Reply #6June 05, 2013, 12:10:32 am

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2013, 12:10:32 am »
Heat it up with a torch, I use two propane ones, then throw some penetrating oil on it while it's still warm, let it sit overnight, heat it up again and unscrew.  Careful not to put any angled pressure on the injectors as you risk cracking the head.

Oops, thanks for the gentle reminder to double check which forum my unread messages are coming from.  Please ignore, Sorry!
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Reply #7June 05, 2013, 12:31:12 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 12:31:12 pm »
ive made slide hammer piece... only works when you got head bolted down to something... but works well...

I've used it several times with the head on the bench without issue.

Reply #8June 05, 2013, 09:59:26 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 09:59:26 pm »
Looks to be like a 3lb weight.. noway it would pull the head around liek a rag hha.

Reply #9June 05, 2013, 10:29:47 pm

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 10:29:47 pm »
<-----standing on front panel... 10lb slide hammer... 15min later...... im talking stuck... was so sweet when running you would see the stream of carbon pop out!! like a exhaust manifold leak...

Reply #10June 10, 2013, 11:24:55 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 11:24:55 pm »
This is the TDI forum.  The injectors are not threaded in, they are held in with a little clamp.  Don't bother heating.  This is what I use:



I bought a nut that was the thread of the injector union, a coupler nut and a jam nut the thread of the slide hammer I already had.  I welded the injector nut to the coupler nut.  Less than $10 and 2 minutes with the welder.  It works VERY well EVERY time.

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Reply #11June 10, 2013, 11:34:15 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 11:34:15 pm »
This is the TDI forum.  The injectors are not threaded in, they are held in with a little clamp.  Don't bother heating.  This is what I use:



I bought a nut that was the thread of the injector union, a coupler nut and a jam nut the thread of the slide hammer I already had.  I welded the injector nut to the coupler nut.  Less than $10 and 2 minutes with the welder.  It works VERY well EVERY time.

Do you happen to know the size and threads of the unions?

Reply #12June 11, 2013, 12:22:05 am

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 12:22:05 am »
I don't remember off hand...  I'm too tired to go look...

Reply #13June 11, 2013, 09:02:32 am

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 09:02:32 am »
Injector slide hammers are a standard tool in the TDI realm....Hammering the injector out and destroying the nozzle? What a hack.

FWIW the injector line thread is 14 X 1.5
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Reply #14June 11, 2013, 10:09:55 pm

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Re: Stuck injector
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 10:09:55 pm »
<-----standing on front panel... 10lb slide hammer... 15min later...... im talking stuck... was so sweet when running you would see the stream of carbon pop out!! like a exhaust manifold leak...

Yep, I've seen this happen before as well.

And to confirm, it is m14x1.5
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