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May 25, 2013, 06:41:42 pm

Dean Erickson

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How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« on: May 25, 2013, 06:41:42 pm »
It's been a while since I have been on here but I am still very much into vw diesels. I thought you folks on here could give me an idea how much H.P. I am making. I am running a stock N/A pump with the pump turned up a bit it blows lots of black smoke at full throttle. It has a kkk 14 turbo with a boost controller set at 20 psi. 2.5 exhaust out the back of the truck. ECO intake so no blow off valve. Timing is set so when I pull out the advance cable it knocks real good. So it's around 1 mm. In second gear it has nice power that will set you back in the seat when it comes up on the turbo. I am thinking about 100 h.p. what do you guys think?

Reply #1May 25, 2013, 06:55:45 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 06:55:45 pm »
Is it intercooled?  If it was I would agree with 100 hp. 
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Reply #2May 25, 2013, 07:01:36 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 07:01:36 pm »
No intercooler but I have been thinking about getting a IC from a saab the blackstone IC.

Reply #3May 25, 2013, 08:05:42 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 08:05:42 pm »
It will make a big difference and clean up some of the smoke as well.  I would try dropping your boost pressure a bit until you get an intercooler.  Anything over 12-15 psi without an intercooler can actually work against you.  The compressed air just gets too hot to make a difference. 
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Reply #4May 26, 2013, 03:39:28 am

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 03:39:28 am »
20 psi on a k14 is about as high as I would go on an eco k14 intercooled or not though 20 psi not intercooled is really pushing it I think. 12psi and added fuel(td pump tuned and fuel screw turned up)  on mine it got hot( no intercooler).
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Reply #5May 26, 2013, 06:20:35 am

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 06:20:35 am »
Any suggestions on what IC to run? it's a 1981 Rabbit truck.

Reply #6May 26, 2013, 09:20:32 am

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 09:20:32 am »
what ever you can make fit... ac or not.. alt set up.. so on will give a idea of room you have,...

Reply #7May 26, 2013, 03:08:13 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 03:08:13 pm »
What would it take to get to 150 H.P.? I think the gov mod it out because the kkk 14 signs off to soon. Would I see a big jump just getting a turbo pump?

Reply #8May 26, 2013, 07:39:01 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 07:39:01 pm »
What would it take to get to 150 H.P.? I think the gov mod it out because the kkk 14 signs off to soon. Would I see a big jump just getting a turbo pump?

Personally I feel that getting the 1.6 IDI's above 150hp, is a challenge for the average Joe. To the point of money really, money will need spent if any surmountable power from a 1.6L IDI is desired.

You will see absolutely no power gain from switching to a TD pump, simply because they have the same capabilities of pumping fuel. The only thing you will gain is the ability to tune it for little to no smoke before boost picks up.

Reply #9May 26, 2013, 11:11:58 pm

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 11:11:58 pm »
I don't know any of the technical stuff on these engines but after getting a fresh 1.6td motor in my 79 rabbit I have found myself pondering mods as well.  I am in bay area,ca and I am kind of surprised actually that as is I can function on the freeways without getting ran over :)

But with loads in the car and hills I am finding it annoying to rev the hell out of 4th gear and pinning it to keep up with 55-70 mph on the freeway.

Do the people with money upgrade to another generation motor?

What if they want to retain mileage of the 1.6 and already have a good engine to start.    Is money better spent modding the heck out of it, or will that ruin the reliability of the car 100,000+ miles down the road?
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Reply #10May 27, 2013, 08:47:36 am

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 08:47:36 am »
Govmod ok with k14 i have it and its great.
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Reply #11May 27, 2013, 09:00:48 am

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Re: How much H.P. 1.6 turbo diesel
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:00:48 am »
I don't know any of the technical stuff on these engines but after getting a fresh 1.6td motor in my 79 rabbit I have found myself pondering mods as well.  I am in bay area,ca and I am kind of surprised actually that as is I can function on the freeways without getting ran over :)

But with loads in the car and hills I am finding it annoying to rev the hell out of 4th gear and pinning it to keep up with 55-70 mph on the freeway.

Do the people with money upgrade to another generation motor?

What if they want to retain mileage of the 1.6 and already have a good engine to start.    Is money better spent modding the heck out of it, or will that ruin the reliability of the car 100,000+ miles down the road?



they buy a rear ended tdi car and put all of that in there.  Or a 1.9td idi.  Both will get you there quicker and more reliably imo

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Reply #12May 27, 2013, 09:14:55 am

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 09:14:55 am »
1.6 doesn't*** get better mileage than a 1.9 TDi..
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Reply #13May 27, 2013, 10:03:42 am

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 10:03:42 am »
bbob how do you come to that? 1.6td b3 = less then your tdi-m.. and b4 tdi-e i think people get more.. but a e not as strong..

i say tdi e or m and my tdi-m runs stronger then stock 2.0 16v...

any tdi till the pd in 04 is easy to do persay.. in m really easy..



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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 12:38:26 pm »
I fixed it..
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