Rabbit needs a new clutch.

[theman53]

Love LUK clutches. I have had one in my truck for 15 years and it is still going strong. The one I put in the vw is great as well. I know many guys that work at LUK in Wooster Ohio and they are proud of what they do.

[wolf_walker]

Wait, they still make things in this country? 

Who sells Luk for old VW's? I haven't seen anything stock but Sachs for ages
at the usual euro parts places.

[theman53]

My general rule of thumb is if it isn't on Ebay it doesn't exist. I got my 210mm setup off ebay for around 150.00. Clutch, pp, throw out, and align tool.

[damac]

I had this- http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=25660.0 happen to two sachs clutches, the second looked even worse that this one. Look elsewhere, luk, spec, whatever. If you buy an expensive clutch kit I think your money will be saved by not having to r & r the transmission in 10k miles. Garbage.

that happened to me to.  freaked me out so i had the flywheel resrurfaced probably for nothing, put another kit in and its been fine since.

[Gizmoman]

I did a search on "Sachs clutch failure" and one on "LUK  clutch failure" just to see what popped up.
Sachs is definitely a looser based on the results .

One post said that VW discontinued using Sachs due to QC issues.

Even though I already have a brand new Sachs waiting to go in as I wrap up this rebuild, I'm going to get a LUK.

[ORCoaster]

Nice TBs on the site.    http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarket.us/displayTB.phtml?number=LB180  Clutch chatter issues.
http://catalog.schaeffler-aftermarket.us/displayTB.phtml?number=LB134  Release Bearing Replacement


They also sell FAG bearings in their catalog. 

[tyb525]

Well I have all the parts, but need to get the flywheel machined. I've went to 2 different machine shops that are supposed to be the best in the area, both of them said they didn't have the equipment for my particular flywheel. Autotech and a local transmission shop.

I'll be checking some different shops tomorrow. What a bummer, I was looking forward to getting this back together today.

Oh, and as "luck" would have it, the old clutch was a LUK, and just thous. away from the rivets scraping. Looks like the clutch has been slipping for awhile, but not enough that I noticed until recently.

[R.O.R-2.0]

Speaking of which, anyone else less than thrilled with Sachs clutches lately? 
Mine is noisy at idle and the one that came out wasn't that old and the springs
had fallen out of the center of the friction disk, which is the 2nd time I've seen that
on a stock NA diesel now, both Sachs.  The Porsche one's still seem OK the last
few years, but they aren't spring centered.

GET THAT CLUTCH OUT OF THERE! it will fly apart eventually..

mine was a sachs as well, 200mm variety, not even old enough to burn the brand stamp off the friction material..

it would chatter like the trans was about to blow up sometimes.. then it got constant, and louder as time went on.

thought my trans had bad cluster bearings, because i wasnt very nice to it being that it was just a junk AUG..

figured i would just swap on my spare ACN trans, and be good to go.. nah, wasnt happening..

was just about to bolt up the ACN, then i remembered i had a 210mm clutch out of the car i harvested the ACN from..

pulled the flywheel off the 200mm clutch set, and when i pulled the flywheel off, i could see metal shavings on both sides of the clutch disk, on the flywheel, and on the pressure plate.. then when i went to flip the disk over to look at the other side, it CLUNKED..

wait, clutches arent supposed to clunk?!

sure enough, the center hub of the clutch had worn splines, and also had a groove around each side where it rested against the spring cover/outer clutch hub.. the area where the springs actually engage the center hub were very worn as well.. its like they never heat treated the center hub on 200mm rabbit clutches..

anyways, it was a good thing i had a 210mm clutch, although it did have a small crack in the friction material..

[tyb525]

Seems there was a time when Sachs put out faulty VW clutches, I think that's been remedied (I also read that on the internet..)

[wolf_walker]

Yeah that figures. 

I've got a 210 in there, I had 176-142-025-gkl-n down as the PN
and it said 85-92 GTI, looks like 17-012 for Luk?  Least it's cheap.

I could really live without pulling the ***ing transmission out again.
sigh

[monomer]

Yeah that figures. 

I've got a 210 in there, I had 176-142-025-gkl-n down as the PN
and it said 85-92 GTI, looks like 17-012 for Luk?  Least it's cheap.

I could really live without pulling the ***ing transmission out again.
sigh

Rockauto gasser fw: $45 shipped. New. Cheaper than a grind!


Mine looked great, and I'm machinist picky.


I just hope the six puck I put it drives ok....

[theman53]

the six puck is an on off switch. I had and will have again in my mk2. It held whatever you wanted to throw at it, but you start off like you have a tractor. No fuel input and let out the clutch, anymore than idle and it felt like the firewall was going to rip out of the car.

[R.O.R-2.0]

the six puck is an on off switch. I had and will have again in my mk2. It held whatever you wanted to throw at it, but you start off like you have a tractor. No fuel input and let out the clutch, anymore than idle and it felt like the firewall was going to rip out of the car.

so, basically, you cant drive it like a ricer?

ive always been the one that continually feathers my throttle when letting the clutch out..

[fatmobile]

the six puck is an on off switch. I had and will have again in my mk2. It held whatever you wanted to throw at it, but you start off like you have a tractor. No fuel input and let out the clutch, anymore than idle and it felt like the firewall was going to rip out of the car.

 Unsprung 6-puck right?

 My sprung 6-puck Clutchnet feathers real nice if I let it out slow,... 210mm.

[theman53]

I have the same clutch you do. 210mm 6 puck, 6 spring clutchnet. You have to drive mine like a tractor. Anything more than idle it sounds like the firewall is going to rip out of the car. I ripped the bolt out of the front mount on my MK2. I guess once it is rolling a bit you can then give it fuel as you let it out more, but it is by no means good feathering.