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May 17, 2013, 10:53:12 am
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OK, I am trying to to research out if I can do this or not? I have a Turbo Diesel 2.0L 5cyl 1982 Audi 5000 with a bad head. I have a rebuilt N/A one from a 1980. I know about the head bolt issues, Got that handled. I notice the pre chambers are different on the two heads. Is that going to be a problem? The car is an Automatic and is going to be driven mostly on the freeway. Anything else I should be aware of??
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May 17, 2013, 12:57:28 pm
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on a vw the oil drains are different, so check that out as well.
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May 19, 2013, 10:48:52 pm
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I can't seem to find any topics pertaining to the 5cyl's but do find topics about the 6cyl and 4cyl engines having different size pre-chambers. I have read the turbo heads had smaller (30mm) ones and the N/A heads had larger (32mm) ones? I am actually experiencing the opposite issue. My Turbo head, which has 12mm head bolts has the larger prechambers and the N/A head, which has 11mm head bolts has smaller prechambers. Will this be an issue? I am trying to get this sorted out ASAP to get the car back on the road and don't know exactly where to turn... HELP!!
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May 19, 2013, 11:11:43 pm
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Is the td head completely broken, not rebuildable/repairable?
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May 20, 2013, 12:20:04 am
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The metalurgy of the older head probably isn't as good, but the prechamber size does not present an obstacle. The 6's are rumored to even perform a little better with the NA head.
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May 21, 2013, 11:31:17 am
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OK I noticed something else that maybe of a concern. The size of the holes right below the injectors (under where the heat shields sit) are significantly smaller on the N/A head vs the Turbo head. They are almost as small as the hole size of the center of a heat shield. I actually thought at first the heat shields were still in the N/A head but no, the holes were actually that small. I don't think this will be a major issue as the heat shields would have the same restriction over either injector port??
I am going to run this N/A head regardless. The stock turbo head is cracked from the number 2 cyl all the way over to the pre chamber. It would be very expensive to fix the head. It also has the common cracks between the valves which I know some say that those are not as much of a problem.
I am going to still hunt for a true Turbo head. But since they were only available here in the US for two years (82&83), I am not sure if I'll find one. I have heard in Canada they had the engine until like 85 or something like that?? Just finding the N/A head was amazing. Due to their rarity, these engines are just not as discussed as the 4 and 6 cyl's. I have been trying to get as much of my info from the D24T.com website as they resemble the 6cyl more than a 4cyl but there seems to be a lot more traffic on this web forum.
I truly appreciate all the help and hope something here can help any future person looking for similar answers.
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