MK1 SUSPENSION INTO MK2.... Why not?

[shwak23]

Why wouldn't this work? They look almost exactly the same. I know the rears work. I don't see why one couldnt either get some rebuildable MK2 housings and put MK1 inserts in or just bolt them in there. Obv different caps and mounts would be needed. But I guess I just don't see a huge difference. If my friend can make Mk3 knuckles go into a mk1 why can't I lower my car tons and tons of millimeters by using the shorter rabbit struts.

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[8v-of-fury]

Look the same, and are the same are not the same. lol

They have less actual travel, they already bottom out on a much lighter car, and it would be a ton of work for not a lot of gain. Now do not think I am being all negative on your creativity, it could probably be done fairly easily.. but why? Also why go tons of tons of tons of millimeters lower? Low ain't cool haha.

[shwak23]

Oh come on. Lowered volkswagens look 1000x better than stock height. I am not going to argue improved handling etc. They just look cooler.

Lets please not turn this into a thread where old people come in and talk about how the roads in their town would destroy a lowered car and how impractical a lowered car is and how "in their day things were different." We have all heard what those people have to say.... We have all heard what people who want to lower their cars have to say..... It is dull as ***. If I wanted that I would have posted on poortex.

How would putting rabbit inserts into MKII housings be a ton of work? The rears literally bolt in with different mounts.... How much more does a MKII weigh than a rabbit? I think rabbits are what? 2200# fully dressed?

My theory is that by using rabbit struts you would retain more strut travel than lowering MKII struts.


Maybe I will just raise my strut towers like a man and be done with it.

Edit: My post sounds angry. I am not angry. I am ;D;)

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[homerj1]

Lets please not turn this into a thread where old people come in and talk about how the roads in their town would destroy a lowered car and how impractical a lowered car is and how "in their day things were different." We have all heard what those people have to say.... We have all heard what people who want to lower their cars have to say..... It is dull as ***. If I wanted that I would have posted on poortex.


It does sound like you have a chip on your shoulder? 

There are a lot of people with tons of valuable vw experience on this forum, this sort of reply is really not going to get you nowhere... 

[CRSMP5]

not easy.. ive seen idiots spend tons of time converting mk3 hubs/knuckles fit a mk1 so they can get 10.1" front brakes.. vs buying pair of 4kq carriers for bolt on.. the knuckle is different thickness.. mk2 longer... so on.. so if you wanna jack it up.. go for it...

now if you want lower.. ahhh buy 500$ coil  over set.. most of them start off shorter so have move overall travel vs stock parts..  lowering stock parts = less travel as the shock piston is still so long.. and well limits how low..

[bajacalal]

Just pony up $$$ for a set of coil-overs, you will wind up with a much better engineered system that has the advantage of being adjustable to the ride height and firmness that you want. It will handle a lot better than trying to use the mushy mk1 suspension too. I'm using the Koni coil-overs and really like them, they're on sale right now on the Koni website too.

[shwak23]

Lets please not turn this into a thread where old people come in and talk about how the roads in their town would destroy a lowered car and how impractical a lowered car is and how "in their day things were different." We have all heard what those people have to say.... We have all heard what people who want to lower their cars have to say..... It is dull as ***. If I wanted that I would have posted on poortex.


It does sound like you have a chip on your shoulder? 

There are a lot of people with tons of valuable vw experience on this forum, this sort of reply is really not going to get you nowhere... 

How many smiley faces and lol's must I put to prove I am not angry. ;D;D;D;D;D;D:-* I mean really Homer... I am well aware of all the juicy delicious vw knowledge out there. People debating the pros and cons of lowering car, whether they are for or against it, are boring. And they are not providing anyone with new knowledge. ;)

And yes I will eventually just buy coilovers but I am just curious. I mean this could also apply to buying MKI coils. My question is... If you are going to lower the car couldnt you get a lot of drop from using the shorter rabbit coils thus not requiring you to wind them down as much thus retaining more strut travel?

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[shwak23]

Just pony up $$$ for a set of coil-overs, you will wind up with a much better engineered system that has the advantage of being adjustable to the ride height and firmness that you want. It will handle a lot better than trying to use the mushy mk1 suspension too. I'm using the Koni coil-overs and really like them, they're on sale right now on the Koni website too.

Although just buying nice koni's bilsteins or h&r ultralow$$ would make retaining strut travel sort of a non issue since they seem to ride nice irregardless of height.

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[homerj1]

I mean really Homer... I am well aware of all the juicy delicious vw knowledge out there. People debating the pros and cons of lowering car, whether they are for or against it, are boring. And they are not providing anyone with new knowledge.

Restricting the topic, just narrows the amount of responses you'll get - why not just let the responses\posts evolve? The answer is out there young jedi............... 

[bajacalal]

I should mention that the roads around here are beating up my lowered car. 

I think I'm going to raise it back up an inch.

[Henk]

best way for decent travel but on a lowered car is to raise the strut towers.
Don't know what it's like with you guys, but over here coilovers start from about £180/200 for 4 corners. It's worthwhile.
I think the biggest issue with MK1/2 compatability is the holes that bolt to the knuckles/wheel bearing housings need to be filed out as the hole centres are slightly different.
As far as i know that's all you need.
Lowered cars are great, it's the 'stance' crap over here that makes the hateful.
I cut the floor out and have arches starting at the bonnet line for the sake of being lower