Oil cooler questions. Looking at universal setup.

[GTFORZA]

Locking at the kit from ecs. http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Jetta_I--Diesel/Engine/Cooling/Oil_Cooler/ES1892558/ does anyone know if this would replace the factory oil cooler on my 84 1.6 cy turbo diesel or does it go in the place of the filter and the filter goes on the bottom of it. I would prefer to separate the oil cooling and the coolant system for prevention of the factory oil cooler causing contamination. I have some other upgrades planned that would put more stress on the motor. I've already figured out an air to water intercooler setup, made a twin fan shroud for use with twin low-pro fans. Just wanting some insight. Any info would be great.

[GTFORZA]

Would I need something like this guy. http://www.mishimoto.com/stainless-steel-sandwich-plate-adapter-m20.html

[GTFORZA]

For some reason I think the oil filter is a standard size. Like 3/4-16

[745 turbogreasel]

You can use a Volvo sandwich plate, and an oil cooler from a bigger vehicle to accomplish the same thing for  less than half the cost.

[bajacalal]

It looks like the sandwich plate and threaded shaft is included, but... $200!!?!?!?!!

You can get the sandwich plate + oil cooler + some high pressure hose and fittings for less than half that cost at summitracing.com,, but you won't get "blingy" stainless steel stuff (but you don't really need it anyway).

Or you could just go to a junkyard and find a Volvo 740 turbo, as mentioned, and probably pay $20 or $30 for the sandwich plate and decently sized oil cooler that is on the side of the Volvo radiator. The Mercedes 300d has a big oil cooler too.

I believe the VW actually does use 3/4" thread for the oil filter, not metric.

[GTFORZA]

Could I just remove the factory cooler and reuse the old 3/4"-16 cooler adaptor?

[745 turbogreasel]

Going the Volvo route, you'd want the Volvo  block nipple.  I didn't think of that, and had to buy an expensive die  to shorten  the air/water one.

[wolf_walker]

Been a guy on vortex in the A1 parts section selling external oil cooler setups for awhile now, worth looking up.

The Volvo bit is good stuff. Almost anything is better than the oil/water factory junk.

[8v-of-fury]

Now what of ones with a thermostat? Necessary? You don't always want your oil as cold as possible do you?!

[theman53]

Right on 8v, the one libby found at SUmmit Racing was perfect. It was also only 30.00 IIRC.

[wolf_walker]

You can run all the oil cooler you want as long as there's a t-stat, all factory setups will have one, Volvo had it in the adapter on the filter flange, mine has an external one that is pretty common on aircraft and everything else.  I consider them nice to have on a NA, and mandatory on a turbo.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5774791-FS-Oil-Cooler-Setup-Temp.-Sandwich-and-Radiator

[8v-of-fury]

I have read some accounts of dudes not runnin a thermo.. And they claim (with an oil temp gauge) no effect in warm up times.

[wolf_walker]

If ambient is enough and the cooler is small enough, and the motor makes enough heat, sure I'd believe that. But I personally will not have a car I can't drive anytime, anywhere. I've been on the road in cold enough weather in a blizzard that my na 1.6 couldn't maintain normal op temp and heater output at sustained 3rd gear crawling through snow. Too easy to run a tstat to not do it in my book.  But I'm nitpicky.  A couple UOA's would tell the tail.

Track or play car would be another story.

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[theman53]

I used a cooler that was 13x7x1 with 1/2" lines. If you don't have a thermo on that cooler you oil will have a hard time getting up to temps.

Libby found one for around 30 dollars that bolted on perfectly in place of the stock deal. It has a thermostat in it. It was from summit racing, but I cannot remember who made it. As a new part I used I fully endorce it if you find it.

[libbydiesel]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hda-205