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Reply #15March 10, 2013, 02:54:56 pm

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 02:54:56 pm »
D+ is excitation 8 mm nut. B+ 13 mm nut post to batt.

Reply #16March 10, 2013, 03:20:23 pm

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2013, 03:20:23 pm »
D+ is excitation 8 mm nut. B+ 13 mm nut post to batt.

Sorry, D+ is not excitation. Do a search. It is connected to the regulator.

Reply #17March 10, 2013, 04:49:31 pm

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2013, 04:49:31 pm »
Try a light bulb across W to ground. 8V should light it dimly.

Reply #18March 12, 2013, 10:41:35 am

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2013, 10:41:35 am »
Try a light bulb across W to ground. 8V should light it dimly.

I figured it out.  After putting the alternator back together and running it, I re-connected my Fluke to it and it read the same thing.   ~0.400 VAC.  Then I started pushing and pulling on the terminal itself and I started seeing blips of 8VAC.  Long story short, the terminal isn't making good contact internally so i made a rubber isolator to keep the tab pushed over to the side.  Now I have 8.1 VAC contantly  ;D

Now I need to just get an older cabriolet tach that is compatible with my Dakota Digital DSL-1.  Simple.
1985 Westy Golf 1.6 NA
1987 Cabriolet (soon to be 1.6 NA)

Reply #19March 12, 2013, 12:30:57 pm

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2013, 12:30:57 pm »
Try a light bulb across W to ground. 8V should light it dimly.

I figured it out.  After putting the alternator back together and running it, I re-connected my Fluke to it and it read the same thing.   ~0.400 VAC.  Then I started pushing and pulling on the terminal itself and I started seeing blips of 8VAC.  Long story short, the terminal isn't making good contact internally so i made a rubber isolator to keep the tab pushed over to the side.  Now I have 8.1 VAC contantly  ;D

Now I need to just get an older cabriolet tach that is compatible with my Dakota Digital DSL-1.  Simple.


How is that terminal attached? You may want a more permanent solution than a piece of rubber applying pressure on the terminal. From your pic, it looks like the terminal maybe riveted to the plate where the diodes are pressed it. I'd clean the rivet/terminal/plate with a wire brush then solder it.
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Reply #20March 12, 2013, 04:44:03 pm

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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2013, 04:44:03 pm »
So the W terminal is just a raw AC output off one of the stator coils? And it goes into the tach input without further conditioning?

My car has a cobbled up alternator and mount.  I think with some alternative sized pulley. No W terminal. Obviously my tach doesn't work.
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Reply #21March 12, 2013, 07:29:39 pm

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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2013, 07:29:39 pm »
An alt with a W terminal as well as a W terminal tach is necessary for a working tach for a diesel. An alternative to a non W terminal tach is a mag pickup and a gasser tach but that is more work and less desirable IMO.

Reply #22March 12, 2013, 07:52:09 pm

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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2013, 07:52:09 pm »
So that is it just the low impedance output off of one of the stator coils?  I don't need to put in a circuit between the tach wire and output of the w wire?

Although it is a lot of work I think I can tap into coil

My car is a diesel and I have two diesel tachometers.

Perhaps I should look for a standard w terminal output  unit.
M2 Jetta TD.  Northern Missouri

Reply #23March 12, 2013, 08:00:00 pm

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Re: W Terminal low voltage reading
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2013, 08:00:00 pm »
So the W terminal is just a raw AC output off one of the stator coils? And it goes into the tach input without further conditioning?

My car has a cobbled up alternator and mount.  I think with some alternative sized pulley. No W terminal. Obviously my tach doesn't work.

Yes, and in a gas engine, the tach signal is just "noise" from the coil, without any "conditioning..." Well the conditioning of the signal is done by the tach itself.

I have a spare alternator I could maybe sell you. It has a w-terminal. It is for a/c cars. I have never tried to use it but it's a Bosch rebuilt unit.