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Reply #75March 02, 2013, 09:57:56 am

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« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2013, 09:57:56 am »
R.O.R-2.0: you make yourself look uneducated with your some of your comments. Have you ever compared a wastegate turbine housing vs. VNT?
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Reply #76March 02, 2013, 11:07:19 am

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« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2013, 11:07:19 am »
Last night, I pickup this little trinket...






Looks awesome, I want one.

Reply #77March 02, 2013, 01:02:58 pm

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« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2013, 01:02:58 pm »
R.O.R-2.0: you make yourself look like uneducated with your some of your comments. Have you ever compared a wastegate turbine housing vs. VNT?

Best siht to date...

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Reply #78March 03, 2013, 12:39:00 am

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« Reply #78 on: March 03, 2013, 12:39:00 am »
The Agg team used a Yanmar 2 cylinder on a Jr Dragster with fairing on the front wheels to qualify as a streamliner, neither team new the other were going for that record.
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Reply #79March 03, 2013, 11:06:47 am

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« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2013, 11:06:47 am »
Looks like the Aggies are stepping up their game this year - all new bodywork, completely faired rearend, lots of new mechanical goodies.  According to their FB page, the engine they used is a Chinese copy (probably of the Yanmar).

I think they will be turbocharged this year, as well.

It's good to see some university level attention paid to the land speed racing at the salt flats.  Get those kids involved at the grass roots level, learning from the bottom up!!!


Reply #80March 03, 2013, 11:39:52 am

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« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2013, 11:39:52 am »
Hell yeah.  Get their hands dirty.  I can't learn unless my hands are involved
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Reply #81March 04, 2013, 10:01:07 am

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« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2013, 10:01:07 am »
Getting slightly off-topic, but here's a link to the USU Aggie's blog page for their diesel LSR project.

http://usulsp.blogspot.com/


Reply #82March 04, 2013, 11:32:14 am

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« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2013, 11:32:14 am »
love the blog, very awesome.
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Reply #83March 05, 2013, 07:40:28 pm

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« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2013, 07:40:28 pm »
R.O.R-2.0: you make yourself look uneducated with your some of your comments. Have you ever compared a wastegate turbine housing vs. VNT?

the cold sides should be basically identical on any of the 2056s tho.. all the ones ive seel, were all very similar, besides this one..

im aware the hot sides are WAY bigger on a VNT.. ive always known that.. but this turbo looks absolutely TINY for a 2056..
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Reply #84March 05, 2013, 08:03:13 pm

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« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2013, 08:03:13 pm »
the cold sides should be basically identical on any of the 2056s tho.. all the ones ive seel, were all very similar, besides this one..

im aware the hot sides are WAY bigger on a VNT.. ive always known that.. but this turbo looks absolutely TINY for a 2056..

I've been looking at GT2056 turbos all over the place for days now and this sure looks just like the pictures I've seen everywhere....

:)

On a TDI it should come out looking something like this:



I'll be very interested to see how it performs on a 1.5L!
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Reply #85March 05, 2013, 09:20:31 pm

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« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2013, 09:20:31 pm »

the cold sides should be basically identical on any of the 2056s tho.. all the ones ive seel, were all very similar, besides this one..

im aware the hot sides are WAY bigger on a VNT.. ive always known that.. but this turbo looks absolutely TINY for a 2056..

Despite the fact that this doesn't look the way you expect it to look, this IS a Garrett GT2056 Turbo - Part# 751578-5002S.  It looks exactly the way it is supposed to look.

Steve.

Reply #86March 05, 2013, 10:17:42 pm

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« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2013, 10:17:42 pm »
the cold sides should be basically identical on any of the 2056s tho.. all the ones ive seel, were all very similar, besides this one..

im aware the hot sides are WAY bigger on a VNT.. ive always known that.. but this turbo looks absolutely TINY for a 2056..

I've been looking at GT2056 turbos all over the place for days now and this sure looks just like the pictures I've seen everywhere....

:)

On a TDI it should come out looking something like this:



I'll be very interested to see how it performs on a 1.5L!

Yeah I'd even wonder how a gt2259 compares to it. They both appear to be a great match
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Reply #87March 06, 2013, 05:57:24 am

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« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2013, 05:57:24 am »
Holset HE211W is very simal in size to the GT2056 (wheels, comp.map and physical size). With 1.6td and original head it is just on the limit of surge, slight adjustment on wastegate actuator cures it. With 1.9 head there is mite margin. Your 1.5 might see some surge with this turbo, but loosening up on the pretension on the wastegate will help you. We've dynoed 173whp on 1.6td/1.9td Franken with this turbo and custom 11mm pump so you will be limited on your pump for sure! Unmodified 9mm pump won't get you more tha 110-120whp is my guess based on dyno results from maxed out stock pumps.
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Reply #88March 06, 2013, 09:33:39 am

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« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2013, 09:33:39 am »
Alcaid:
    Thank you very much for weighing in on this topic.  I was hoping that you might do so.  Based on the turbo map, I was also concerned with being VERY close to the surge line.

    In order to ensure that I understand your recommendation, are you saying that the wastegate should be set to open (bypass) more quickly than the stock settings (i.e. lower boost levels), or to set the wastegate to open at higher boost levels (open later)? 

    I have just about made up my mind, and increased my budget once again, to have the injection pump fully modified.  I am going to contact "Dieselmeken AB", who I follow on Facebook,  to investigate the possibility of having him do the pump work.  I have spoken to Giles in Canada earlier, but want to investigate all options.

Thank you again,

Steve.

Reply #89March 06, 2013, 09:58:12 am

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« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2013, 09:58:12 am »
I trust Giles. The Dieselmaken is the guy in the rock and roll pump video that Alcaid had his pump done by. Both are probably equal in ability. One will be much cheaper shipping and I would tell him you are going for LSR and 'maybe' beg for a price difference or partial sponser type deal. It won't hurt, maybe he would give you a deal on a better pump but charge you the rate for the regular super pump? Just guessing things here, maybe Dieselmaken would as well??? Get a price war on the 2 of them LOL. I would think that one of them would want the opportunity to have their pump on a potential LSR record holder.
 
I am very biased as I am sure Alcaid is as well. I would love to see a Giles pump on your engine and it is why I offered mine to 'test'. Once you get a taste I bet you wouldn't want to let it go.

 

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