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Wanted - Steel (not cast iron) flywheel for 1.5 Diesel crank.
by
Jetmugg
on 11 Feb, 2013 15:07
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I need a steel flywheel to work with a 1.5 (IDI) diesel bottom end.
I believe that an 8v gasser flywheel will work.
Please let me know what you've got.
Steve.
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#1
by
ffgb
on 11 Feb, 2013 17:46
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I don't know if 1.5 and 1.6 diesel flywheels are interchangeable? I do know that on my 1.6N/A, I upgraded my flywheel from the 190mm to a 210mm lightened gasser flywheel, this was on my 4A transmission. You have to also use the appropriate pressure plate for that flywheel, meaning 190mm for the 190mm and the 210mm for the 210mm. Also, keep in mind the timing marks on the flywheel will be different. I had to remark my gasser flywheel timing mark for TDC for the diesel motor.
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#2
by
bbob203
on 11 Feb, 2013 18:08
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You will need clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel from a gas car with an 020.
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#3
by
8v-of-fury
on 11 Feb, 2013 18:10
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All older 4 cyl 8v and 16v flywheels are interchangeable.
Why do you need a steel flywheel?
Not true BBOB, you could just slap a 210mm flywheel on the 200mm clutch and call it a day. There is no increased clamping force in the 210 over the 200 or 190.
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#4
by
bbob203
on 11 Feb, 2013 18:21
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All older 4 cyl 8v and 16v flywheels are interchangeable.
Why do you need a steel flywheel?
Not true BBOB, you could just slap a 210mm flywheel on the 200mm clutch and call it a day. There is no increased clamping force in the 210 over the 200 or 190.
just the disc and pressure plate that's better?
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#5
by
CdnVWJunkie
on 11 Feb, 2013 19:48
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All older 4 cyl 8v and 16v flywheels are interchangeable.
Why do you need a steel flywheel?
Not true BBOB, you could just slap a 210mm flywheel on the 200mm clutch and call it a day. There is no increased clamping force in the 210 over the 200 or 190.
No increased clamping force? It's a larger surface area. It's well known in the TDI world that you change the 1Z/AHU FW for a G60/VR6 for the larger face surface and better grip.
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#6
by
8v-of-fury
on 11 Feb, 2013 20:09
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No increased clamping force? It's a larger surface area. It's well known in the TDI world that you change the 1Z/AHU FW for a G60/VR6 for the larger face surface and better grip.
Well that is a different clutch setup now isn't it?
The larger surface area does not equate to better clamping force on the 020. It just means longer clutch life.
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#7
by
8v-of-fury
on 11 Feb, 2013 20:11
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just the disc and pressure plate that's better?
increased holding power comes from a stronger pressure plate ie, the 16v one.
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#8
by
CdnVWJunkie
on 11 Feb, 2013 20:24
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just the disc and pressure plate that's better?
increased holding power comes from a stronger pressure plate ie, the 16v one.
yes, I realize that it's a different set up but no really grasping why it won't increase clamping force.
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#9
by
8v-of-fury
on 11 Feb, 2013 20:26
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That was incomprehensible?
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#10
by
745 turbogreasel
on 11 Feb, 2013 21:40
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When you have more area, more force is not needed.
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#11
by
CRSMP5
on 11 Feb, 2013 21:44
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diesels = 200mm stock clutch size..
old gas 190, caddy 200, then 1.8 started 210mm
all 4 banger flywheels/pressure plates are matched in size.. in 94ish they dropped duel locating pins to a single pin.. so again match set..
disks.. any 190, 200, 210 will fit in the 210mm flywheel.. cannot go other way round though as the flywheel is not machined in clutch friction area for bigger disk...
now i have a odd ball older 190mm gasser flywheel.. the one with 3 reverse ears for the axle flange to slip past.. but cast vs steel... no idea.. sadly i do not know anyone selling a steel billit one either.. think they all cast.. for where they machine them for weight.. this one would weigh less still.. due to the ears.. but i think you want heavy vs light..
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#12
by
CdnVWJunkie
on 11 Feb, 2013 23:49
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When you have more area, more force is not needed.
That's a better way of putting it for sure. Larger swept area. I still don't agree with the above statements that a 190 vs 210 mm clutch will hold TQ the same. But whatever.
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#13
by
8v-of-fury
on 11 Feb, 2013 23:56
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When you have more area, more force is not needed.
That's a better way of putting it for sure. Larger swept area. I still don't agree with the above statements that a 190 vs 210 mm clutch will hold TQ the same. But whatever.
You do not have to agree with it. It is however, fact.
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#14
by
ORCoaster
on 12 Feb, 2013 00:33
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The bigger the plate the more friction is available thus you don't need as much pressure to hold it to keep it from spinning free.