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January 08, 2013, 01:36:39 am

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WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« on: January 08, 2013, 01:36:39 am »
I need a good working vacuum pump, maybe 2.

Also need a clutch kit for another engine and wouldn't mind saving on something that is new or close to new, otherwise I will just place an online order.  thanks!
1985 turbo diesel jetta

Reply #1January 08, 2013, 08:31:09 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 08:31:09 am »
Why just rotary? A diaphragm pump is easy and cheap to rebuild and works just as well to produce vacuum.

Reply #2January 08, 2013, 09:02:51 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 09:02:51 am »
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.

Reply #3January 08, 2013, 09:36:07 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 09:36:07 am »
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.

thanks for offer, i just need a stock replacement with stock cars, never had an issue with them?

as far as the other vacuum pumps, i do have those and maybe i should look into it.  all my rotary pumps for whatever reason are screwed up?  scoring at the top inside and the lids?  i also had one lock up on me the other day!
1985 turbo diesel jetta

Reply #4January 08, 2013, 09:46:00 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 09:46:00 am »
Don't waste the money on rebuilding the old diaphragms just source a rotary. All diesels from 86-98 for sure should be the pump you are looking for.. 99 (ALH) went to a completely different style.

Reply #5January 08, 2013, 01:10:36 pm

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 01:10:36 pm »
The 1.6 and 1.9 rotary pumps do not interchange.  They have different o-ring setup and different gear size.  
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 04:12:16 pm by 8v-of-fury »

Reply #6January 08, 2013, 04:12:21 pm

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 04:12:21 pm »
Learn something new erry'day. Thank-you sir.

Reply #7January 09, 2013, 08:58:01 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 08:58:01 am »
Don't waste the money on rebuilding the old diaphragms just source a rotary. All diesels from 86-98 for sure should be the pump you are looking for.. 99 (ALH) went to a completely different style.

Please explain why. I kinda like the ease and how cheap it is ($10 1/2 hour) to replace a diaphragm. What am I missing?

Reply #8January 09, 2013, 09:01:21 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 09:01:21 am »
Spend $25 (or whatever a rotary costs) and never take it out again? ;)

Reply #9January 09, 2013, 10:25:04 pm

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 10:25:04 pm »
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 10:30:36 pm by fatmobile »
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
MK4s: 2000 TDI jetta, 2003 TDI wagon, 2000 golf 2.0 gasser.
'84 Rabbit with 1.7TD KY block pistons bored to 80mm, VNT-15
'84 GTI with stock 1.6TD starion intercooler.

Reply #10January 11, 2013, 09:02:33 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2013, 09:02:33 am »
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.

thanks for offer, i just need a stock replacement with stock cars, never had an issue with them?

as far as the other vacuum pumps, i do have those and maybe i should look into it.  all my rotary pumps for whatever reason are screwed up?  scoring at the top inside and the lids?  i also had one lock up on me the other day!

Is the rotary pump scoring and lock up a common problem? What's the cause? Anyway to check the pump out without disassembling it?

Reply #11January 11, 2013, 09:07:05 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 09:07:05 am »
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.

How do you check the brass bushing on bottom of pump for wear? Just wiggle the gear and feel for play? How about the slot? What should a good one look like? Any pics?

Reply #12January 11, 2013, 08:37:54 pm

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 08:37:54 pm »
I have a NOS Sachs 200mm clutch disc and my old pressure plate that I removed when the output shaft seal went bad on the tranny. It is a low mileage VW unit that I did not bother re-using because my new clutch had it. $20 plus the ride.
81 Caddy Diesel, 84 Jetta Diesel, 98 Jetta GLS, 99 Jetta GLX,, 95 Golf.

Reply #13January 13, 2013, 11:01:05 pm

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2013, 11:01:05 pm »
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.

How do you check the brass bushing on bottom of pump for wear? Just wiggle the gear and feel for play? How about the slot? What should a good one look like? Any pics?

It's a thrust bearing so you can see if the gear is wearing into it.
 The slot should wear like a bow tie normally  but if this is starting to ramp so the 2 push against each other it can push up into the bushing as they get farther apart.
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
MK4s: 2000 TDI jetta, 2003 TDI wagon, 2000 golf 2.0 gasser.
'84 Rabbit with 1.7TD KY block pistons bored to 80mm, VNT-15
'84 GTI with stock 1.6TD starion intercooler.

Reply #14January 14, 2013, 04:47:52 am

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Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 04:47:52 am »
I have several pumps from 98 Jettas, $60 shipped