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#45
by
8v-of-fury
on 25 Dec, 2012 20:52
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If anything disk's should lock up WAY easier, they are after all a much better brake design.
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#46
by
745 turbogreasel
on 25 Dec, 2012 21:02
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Discs don't self-energize, drums do.
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#47
by
8v-of-fury
on 25 Dec, 2012 21:11
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Discs don't self-energize, drums do.
This matters because??
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#48
by
ORCoaster
on 25 Dec, 2012 21:24
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It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front. Will discs in the rear allow that to happen? Doesn't appear so from what I was reading. Hence no fun factor? Safer but boring.
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#49
by
RabbitJockey
on 26 Dec, 2012 04:24
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i think i prefer the drums in the back, they are cheaper to maintain and do not have the ebrake freezing problem, not that i care much either way
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#50
by
8v-of-fury
on 26 Dec, 2012 07:04
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It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front. Will discs in the rear allow that to happen? Doesn't appear so from what I was reading. Hence no fun factor? Safer but boring.
Hmm. Well all the disk brake cars I have driven can do that on pavement, whereas the drums can't. I honestly don't see how drums lock up better.
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#51
by
snakemaster
on 26 Dec, 2012 08:02
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disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns
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#52
by
RabbitJockey
on 26 Dec, 2012 08:32
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properly working drums lock up just fine going down the road, i haven't tried these discs yet
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#53
by
8v-of-fury
on 27 Dec, 2012 13:55
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I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.
This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.
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#54
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 27 Dec, 2012 14:43
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disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns
ive always had better luck with drum brakes..
all the drum cars ive had, the e-brake will lock going down the highway.
the disk cars wont even come close to that..
disk e-brakes hold you better on a hill, but wont spin you around in the middle of the road..
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#55
by
RabbitJockey
on 27 Dec, 2012 14:56
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I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.
This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.
it seems even one minor part being bad on them keeps them from working properly while the car will stop flawlessly. not much of a problem i think i can completely rebuild them for about 30 bucks a side haha.
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#56
by
scrounger
on 27 Dec, 2012 18:08
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A few days ago, I did a hand brake turn after missing an exit on snow covered two lane road and did spin around. It worked great as usual. A couple of days later I had the car up on a stand and the right rear wheel didn't have any ebrake, I was locking only the inside wheel. Might be nice to have two handles, right and left.
Seems like it always something, keeps the antique vw experience interesting.
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#57
by
tyb525
on 30 Dec, 2012 11:17
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By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.
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#58
by
RabbitJockey
on 30 Dec, 2012 12:17
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By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.
Yeah they're really not the antiquity alot of people seem to think, not when they're on the back anyway
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#59
by
tyb525
on 30 Dec, 2012 12:27
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Yeah I'm not a fan of drums on the front, the reason being that they can be a pain to get adjusted equally so they don't pull left or right when you brake. Plus they do lock up easier which is especially bad on the front.