No where to go today.

[8v-of-fury]

If anything disk's should lock up WAY easier, they are after all a much better brake design.

[745 turbogreasel]

Discs don't self-energize, drums do.

[8v-of-fury]

Discs don't self-energize, drums do.

This matters because??

[ORCoaster]

It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front.  Will discs in the rear allow that to happen?  Doesn't appear so from what I was reading.  Hence no fun factor?  Safer but boring. 

[RabbitJockey]

i think i prefer the drums in the back, they are cheaper to maintain and do not have the ebrake freezing problem, not that i care much either way

[8v-of-fury]

It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front.  Will discs in the rear allow that to happen?  Doesn't appear so from what I was reading.  Hence no fun factor?  Safer but boring. 

Hmm. Well all the disk brake cars I have driven can do that on pavement, whereas the drums can't. I honestly don't see how drums lock up better. 

[snakemaster]

disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns

[RabbitJockey]

properly working drums lock up just fine going down the road, i haven't tried these discs yet

[8v-of-fury]

I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.

This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.

[R.O.R-2.0]

disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns

ive always had better luck with drum brakes..

all the drum cars ive had, the e-brake will lock going down the highway.

the disk cars wont even come close to that..

disk e-brakes hold you better on a hill, but wont spin you around in the middle of the road..

[RabbitJockey]

I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.

This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.

it seems even one minor part being bad on them keeps them from working properly while the car will stop flawlessly.  not much of a problem i think i can completely rebuild them for about 30 bucks a side haha.

[scrounger]

A few days ago, I did a hand brake turn after missing an exit on snow covered two lane road and did spin around. It worked great as usual. A couple of days later I had the car up on a stand and the right rear wheel didn't have any ebrake, I was locking only the inside wheel. Might be nice to have two handles, right and left.

Seems like it always something, keeps the antique vw experience interesting.

[tyb525]

By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.

[RabbitJockey]

By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.

Yeah they're really not the antiquity alot of people seem to think, not when they're on the back anyway

[tyb525]

Yeah I'm not a fan of drums on the front, the reason being that they can be a pain to get adjusted equally so they don't pull left or right when you brake. Plus they do lock up easier which is especially bad on the front.