81 Caddy starter motor question

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

The starter in my Caddy maybe on the fritz and either needs rebuilding or replacement. I notice it is a bigger unit (physically) than the one in my 92 Eco. I have a low mileage spare starter (60K) from a 91 Eco (MK2). Will it fit in my MK1 Caddy?

[TylerDurden]

I put a MK2 starter in my caddy. It just has the extra portion on the flange for the MK2 Motor mount.

Might as well change the bushing too.

[RabbitJockey]

I use mkii starters as well

[burn_your_money]

The smaller starters are heaps better than the big ones.

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

I put a MK2 starter in my caddy. It just has the extra portion on the flange for the MK2 Motor mount.

Might as well change the bushing too.

Bushing? What bushing? pic? p/n? Thanks!

[TylerDurden]

The bushing is a bronze sleeve that is pressed into the bellhousing, to accept the end of the starter shaft.

It is a normal wear-item, that if ignored can strand you, as the starter drags and beats-up the pinion & flywheel.

Some guys have simply threaded a bolt into the old one and pulled it out - drive in a new one with a wood block.

[TylerDurden]

AutohausAZ #113301155


http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=nieuca45vwepvq55mpnd1h2k&partnumber=113301155

[theman53]

Fill it full of oil and press with your fingers and you get a pre lubed bushing. I had a writeup on here long time ago...

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

AutohausAZ #113301155


http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=nieuca45vwepvq55mpnd1h2k&partnumber=113301155

Thanks for the p/n. Ordering from Autohausaz takes a week for the $50 free shipping so I called Advance auto parts and gave them the VW p/n 113 301 155 and believe it or not they can order it and have it by Dec 7th for $1.73 ea. ! It's from a company by the name of IMC, probably the same one Autohausaz sells.

As far as tapping the bushing and pulling it out with a bolt can someone who has done it provide more specific info such as what size tap you used and what can go wrong? I took a look at a spare 020 transmission I have and that bushing has pretty thin walls and I am afraid of stripping the soft bronz if not done right.

[TylerDurden]

IIRC, when I changed the last one, I just cranked a long 12mm bolt into the old bushing and did some kind of ghetto slide-hammer action to pull it out.

Main things to watch: not to beat up the aluminum bore, and to drive the new bushing in straight, without dinging it up (hence the wood block).

[burn_your_money]

When I did it I just inserted the tap and kept turning until the bushing started spinning. Then I kept turning and pulled at the same time and it came out. Use the most course tap that you have.

[bbob203]

When I did it I just inserted the tap and kept turning until the bushing started spinning. Then I kept turning and pulled at the same time and it came out. Use the most course tap that you have.

ditto

[shorttimer]

This is on the 'to do' list on my Caddy/AAZ project. Love the cheap part, too.

[theman53]

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=27559.0

found the writeup and updated pics.

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

I made a plug gage the same diameter as the starter motor shaft and found the bushing in the Caddy tranny is not worn at all! It actually has less play than a new bushing! Saves me from having to R&R the bushing. I'll just grease it up. Pulling the starter was a breeze in the Caddy compared to a MK2. I'll be taking the starter apart to see what's wrong with it.