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Reply #15October 16, 2012, 05:20:38 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2012, 05:20:38 pm »
How tough would it be to find a quatro trans for it?

A quattro trans that would bolt up to a 4cyl diesel? If you want to use the early manual locking diffs, like me, you need an 016 with the 4 cyl bolt pattern, and as far as I know, you can only get these in Europe
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Reply #16October 16, 2012, 07:06:38 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2012, 07:06:38 pm »
Per cylinder it is, but with more displacement, you do better at low  RPMs, and there is no balance shaft.

what about a balance shaft?

the 1.6 doesnt have either..

IM shaft maybe, but not a balance shaft..

if anything it is an un-balance shaft. LOL.
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Reply #17October 16, 2012, 07:09:37 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2012, 07:09:37 pm »
Isn't Quantum longitudinal and your Jetta's are transverse, so I would say no.

 That has nothing to do with the engine bolting to the trany.
 
 I would be nice if they made an adapter kit so we could easily build a quantum syncro wagon with a 1.6 TD.  ;D

the 86-89 quattro trannies had both patterns i do believe..

Audi TD5 engines are not hard to find, and are tougher than a 1.6...

86-89 are not dual bolt pattern...If that were the case I would have already put my AHU into my 87 4000CS quattro

....And if Audi TD5's aren't hard to find, how come I can't seem to find a head for mine?

there are a GRIP of TD5s over on this side of the planet.. ive had chances to own lots...

and i know where there is a head for yours, you just have to pursuade me to remove it and ship it to you ;)

and maybe it was just the 2wd trannies that got both bolt patterns...

i know some of the Audi trannies were bisexual, just dont remember what ones..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
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Reply #18October 16, 2012, 08:02:14 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 08:02:14 pm »
can some one educate me on how hard itvwould be to make and adapter plate and how exactly they work. wouldn't the input shaft on the clutch be to short to go into clutch from thexwidth of the plate?
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Reply #19October 16, 2012, 09:25:52 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 09:25:52 pm »
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=31533.0 


This guy claiming 35-38 mpg in a 2wd.. In the syncro it would probably be worse... no? A b3 with an AAZ is sounding like a better move(easier and cheaper) for a wagon project. though having an wad diesel wagon sounds zoo good..
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Reply #20October 17, 2012, 06:59:48 am

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2012, 06:59:48 am »
Per cylinder it is, but with more displacement, you do better at low  RPMs, and there is no balance shaft.

what about a balance shaft?

the 1.6 doesnt have either..

IM shaft maybe, but not a balance shaft..

if anything it is an un-balance shaft. LOL.
You are right.
 5's and 6's have a water pump in that spot, and it is the timing belt tensioner.


Reply #21October 17, 2012, 10:39:26 am

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2012, 10:39:26 am »
Isn't Quantum longitudinal and your Jetta's are transverse, so I would say no.

 That has nothing to do with the engine bolting to the trany.
 
 I would be nice if they made an adapter kit so we could easily build a quantum syncro wagon with a 1.6 TD.  ;D

the 86-89 quattro trannies had both patterns i do believe..

Audi TD5 engines are not hard to find, and are tougher than a 1.6...

86-89 are not dual bolt pattern...If that were the case I would have already put my AHU into my 87 4000CS quattro

....And if Audi TD5's aren't hard to find, how come I can't seem to find a head for mine?



and i know where there is a head for yours, you just have to pursuade me to remove it and ship it to you ;)



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Reply #22October 17, 2012, 09:57:18 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2012, 09:57:18 pm »
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i know some of the Audi trannies were bisexual, just dont remember what ones..

It is the 01A (5-speed Quattro) and 01E (5 and 6 speed Quattro) transmissions that will accept both bolt patterns.  The 016 trannies in the U.S. will only accept the 5/6 cylinder engines.  Swapping 01Es into Audi 4000 Quattros is fairly common, so I wouldn't think that swapping a 01E into a Quantum Syncro would be too difficult either.
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Reply #23December 01, 2012, 02:57:54 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2012, 02:57:54 pm »
Hi bbob203.  It appears we are on the same search.  I will look at the Quantum Syncro tomorrow, heavy rain and snow permitting, to determine if I will purchase the vehicle.  I'm doing research on the Audi 2.0 Turbodiesel in case I purchase the car so I can make the swap.
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Reply #24December 01, 2012, 03:01:00 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2012, 03:01:00 pm »
Hi bbob203.  It appears we are on the same search.  I will look at the Quantum Syncro tomorrow, heavy rain and snow permitting, to determine if I will purchase the vehicle.  I'm doing research on the Audi 2.0 Turbodiesel in case I purchase the car so I can make the swap.

TD5 engines are SUPER HARD to find, and even harder to find parts for..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #25December 01, 2012, 07:23:19 pm

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Re: will a diesel bolt up to a quantum syncro 5cyl trans?
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2012, 07:23:19 pm »
ROR, you appear to be correct in the availability of the TD5's....I've found a few on the internet but have no idea what condition they're in but the cost is around $1,000 shipped.  I'll look more on the availability of parts but since pistons, injectors, etc. are the same as the 1.6 that should never be a problem.  I'll know more tomorrow when I purchase or walk away from the QSW (Quantum Syncro Wagon).  I just really want a 4wd diesel wagon for driving in the mountains skiing and hunting.
1985 Jetta 1.6 TD
1985 Volvo 745 2.4 TD
1987 Quantum Syncro Wagon (to receive 2.0TD)
1981 Caddy (getting 1.6 TD)
2006 Touareg V10 TDI