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September 22, 2012, 08:00:55 pm

Smokey Eddy

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EGR delete DIY?
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:00:55 pm »
Does anyone know of a EGR delete DIY? If not I think I'll make one.
Maybe on TDI club?


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Reply #1September 22, 2012, 09:23:37 pm

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 09:23:37 pm »
Id parts I think does. The mechanical part is simple, but from what I gather you will get a code if you don't have it deleted in the ECU. Not 100% on this.

Reply #2September 22, 2012, 10:53:38 pm

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 10:53:38 pm »
i made up my block off plates.. hacksaw, drill and barstock..

Reply #3September 22, 2012, 11:30:35 pm

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 11:30:35 pm »
It is idparts...it wouldn't take much to block one off, but the idparts deal has the egr cooler hose delete. I don't know what all it is, but that can probably be sourced from a parts store fairly easy too.

Reply #4September 23, 2012, 08:42:43 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 08:42:43 am »
i made up my block off plates.. hacksaw, drill and barstock..

almost the same here, bandsaw and use my mill as a drill with 1/4" thick bar.

I used the stock hose slightly chopped and another hose I had off a TDI chopped and joined them. I can't remember exactly where this other hose came from though.
Here is a kit
http://www.dieselgeek.com/TDI_EGR_Cooler_Delete_p/egr-cooldel.htm

See that straight coupler? you can get those from a junk yard, they are on every gas jetta/golf/beetle heatercore, just grab that and a few random hose chunks and you can cobble something together. I used 7/8" aluminum tube I had as a coupler - the tubes are 20mm so its a nice stretch fit.
You also need a straight 3/8" hose barb to connect the bleed hoses back to the coolant reservoir - I think 5/16 might be the right size but 3/8 also works as that's what I just used.

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Reply #5September 24, 2012, 05:56:08 pm

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 05:56:08 pm »
You won't find much on tdiclub, they're a bunch of sissies  :P

Alright! Thanks for the info guys! :)
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Reply #6September 25, 2012, 05:05:29 pm

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 05:05:29 pm »
Id parts I think does. The mechanical part is simple, but from what I gather you will get a code if you don't have it deleted in the ECU. Not 100% on this.

You're right on this.  You will need VAG-COM or something like it and somebody who knows how to change the coding so that the ECM no longer reads the EGR's value block, which is what prevents the check engine light from coming on.  You can even use VAG-COM to fiddle with the injection timing, quantity, and even boost control.  It's one of those tools that I wish I had, and is pretty indispensable to tuning e-TDI's.


Reply #7September 25, 2012, 05:47:26 pm

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 05:47:26 pm »
If you want have your tuner delete the EGR valve duty cycle/ EGR valve monitoring from the software, mine did. I use TDtuning now. I had a Rocketchip before and that eliminated the EGR as well but not as well as my new tune....I still had to leave the N18 valve connected to keep my MIL off...then in an effort to clean up my bay and make more room I got a 20 ohm 10 watt ceramic coated resistor to fool the ECU into thinking the valve was still plugged in! I don't need that resistor now but already sold it to another TDI club member.

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Reply #8September 25, 2012, 08:59:03 pm

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 08:59:03 pm »
I have also read about a "MAF twist" on TDI club.  Supposedly rotating the MAF in relation to the airbox will prevent codes from being thrown with an EGR delete.
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Reply #9September 25, 2012, 09:16:35 pm

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 09:16:35 pm »
MAF twist might fool the ECU to thinking you're not getting as much air, the ecu will in turn fool you and not give you as much fuel ;)

Reply #10September 26, 2012, 10:21:03 pm

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 10:21:03 pm »
Flip! I knew it wasn't THAT simple. arg. I need a whiteboard.
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Reply #11September 27, 2012, 06:58:08 am

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Re: EGR delete DIY?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 06:58:08 am »
Flip! I knew it wasn't THAT simple. arg. I need a whiteboard.
What isn't simple about blockin the EGR passages and leaving the stupid N18 valve plugged in? Nothing to lose there...
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Reply #12September 27, 2012, 10:35:43 am

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 10:35:43 am »
Oooo I think ill have to actually look and know what that valve is.
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Reply #13September 27, 2012, 10:39:08 am

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 10:39:08 am »
I now have my EGR deleted in the ECU. Until I feel the need to replace the mechanical parts of it I will leave it as is.

Reply #14September 27, 2012, 12:11:09 pm

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 12:11:09 pm »
Why or when would you want the egr to be working?
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
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