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Reply #15September 24, 2012, 12:10:05 am

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Re: HOW is it possible for these to flow any better than a stock TD piece?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 12:10:05 am »
no, no dyno on the 1y intake... its a different car aswell. I could compare the stock and pd160 because they were on the same car with the same turbo and everything, but the 1y is in a different car.

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Reply #16September 25, 2012, 09:24:05 am

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Reply #17September 25, 2012, 09:45:45 am

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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2012, 09:45:45 am »
How much firewall-turbo clearance do you have with that setup? Not much I'd guess!
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Reply #18September 25, 2012, 12:02:08 pm

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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2012, 12:02:08 pm »
How much firewall-turbo clearance do you have with that setup? Not much I'd guess!

i think after the adaptor was on, there was only a hair of clearance, but he solved that issue with a hammer, maybe he will chime in again.
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Reply #19September 25, 2012, 12:26:43 pm

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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2012, 12:26:43 pm »
How much firewall-turbo clearance do you have with that setup? Not much I'd guess!

I'd had prolly an inch of clearance between the firewall and the turbo. The Wastegate hit the so I clearanced the firewall a little bit I had an adapter going from the manifold to the turbo because the bolt patter was different and it was about a half inch thick

Reply #20September 25, 2012, 12:40:59 pm

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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2012, 12:40:59 pm »
How much firewall-turbo clearance do you have with that setup? Not much I'd guess!

where are pics of your mk1?  i love mk1's
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Reply #21September 25, 2012, 04:57:49 pm

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2012, 04:57:49 pm »
I'm kinda feeling dumb now, having ordered a PD 150 mani myself.  Mine points towerd the driver side, though.  But here's my question:  Having a less restrictive intake and plenum, would this benefeit a ported head better than a stock 1.6-1.9 TD mani, especially under mid-20's boost numbers?  I'll actually be using Smokey Eddy's old ported AAZ head, and from the loosk of the pics he sent me he has a lot of hours of smoothing and shaping put into the ports, so I think easier access to intake air would be better for it?

EDIT: Oh, and it came with a race pipe, so no EGR BS.


Reply #22September 25, 2012, 05:02:26 pm

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Re: HOW is it possible for these to flow any better than a stock TD piece?
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2012, 05:02:26 pm »
I'm kinda feeling dumb now, having ordered a PD 150 mani myself.  Mine points towerd the driver side, though.  But here's my question:  Having a less restrictive intake and plenum, would this benefeit a ported head better than a stock 1.6-1.9 TD mani, especially under mid-20's boost numbers?  I'll actually be using Smokey Eddy's old ported AAZ head, and from the loosk of the pics he sent me he has a lot of hours of smoothing and shaping put into the ports, so I think easier access to intake air would be better for it?

EDIT: Oh, and it came with a race pipe, so no EGR BS.

i still think that a PROPER intake manifold would be leaps and bounds better than the PD pancake manifolds..
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Reply #23September 25, 2012, 05:49:08 pm

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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 05:49:08 pm »
Man I would like to think my PD intake was an improvement over the stock chicken neck 1Z intake :-\, what do you think I should do for a better intake manifold?  ???
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Reply #24September 25, 2012, 06:38:03 pm

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 06:38:03 pm »
Pretty sure that the new consensus is that almost no stock manifold is truly without noticeable flaws besides maybe the 1Y and SDI scroll manifolds, and even then I'm sure you could argue further.  Custom manifolds for TDI's are too expensive unless you make it yourself.  I still think the PD's are more open than stock, though, so I'll just live with my choice for now.  It won't kill your engine and will be better than stock, but it just won't be 100% ideal.


Reply #25September 25, 2012, 08:49:46 pm

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2012, 08:49:46 pm »
Oh this thread reminds me of my old plastic sdi intake manifold, it was really cool looking but simply won't work on cars with lda or probably anything but an electronic pump
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Reply #26September 26, 2012, 02:37:39 am

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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2012, 02:37:39 am »
where are pics of your mk1?  i love mk1's

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Reply #27September 26, 2012, 07:29:34 am

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« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2012, 07:29:34 am »
Oh this thread reminds me of my old plastic sdi intake manifold, it was really cool looking but simply won't work on cars with lda or probably anything but an electronic pump
You wouldn't still have this SDI manifold would you? Want to sell it?  ;D

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Reply #28September 26, 2012, 09:36:53 am

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« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2012, 09:36:53 am »
No I sold it on eBay at a loss I had it on tdi club for like 2 years for what I paid for it and no takers.  Really cool looking piece tho like an aba manifold for counter flow
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Reply #29September 26, 2012, 10:39:08 am

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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2012, 10:39:08 am »
No I sold it on eBay at a loss I had it on tdi club for like 2 years for what I paid for it and no takers.  Really cool looking piece tho like an aba manifold for counter flow
You mean you couldn't sell a part for what it was worth on TDI club? Never seen that before  ;D
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