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Which injection pipes for a franken 1.6/1.9 engine?
by
TurboJ
on 09 Sep, 2012 13:08
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So I have and AAZ head and AAZ injectors on my 1.6 TD block.
The AAZ injectros have a noticeably longer body than 1.6 injectors, so the stock
injection pipes don't fit very well.
What injection pipes have you used with 1.9 injectors and a 1.6 block?
At least T2 1.6 TD and T4 1.9 TD pipe sets are available for me.
I don't think AAZ pipes will work either as the pump sits at a different angle on the block.
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#1
by
RabbitJockey
on 09 Sep, 2012 13:37
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I would think u must use 1.9 lines, and that is what I've read on here in the past
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#2
by
TurboJ
on 09 Sep, 2012 14:09
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Would T4 1.9 TD lines work?
Golf III / Passat ones aren't available at my supplier.
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#3
by
RabbitJockey
on 09 Sep, 2012 14:20
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I wouldn't know haha, I do have 2 sets of aaz lines tho, I'd send them to you for the cost of shipping but I'm not sure if they are the dual stage lines or not
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#4
by
libbydiesel
on 09 Sep, 2012 15:56
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There aren't any lines that will fit that combination without bending them because the taller injectors were never used with the shorter block. If you use 1.6 injectors you could use 1.6 lines. 1.9 lines won't fit because the 1.9 block is taller.
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#5
by
TurboJ
on 09 Sep, 2012 17:31
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Well, which lines would require the least amount of bending?
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#6
by
libbydiesel
on 09 Sep, 2012 17:39
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Probably ones from a Mercedes 300 series 3.0 L 5-cylinder.
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#7
by
rallydiesel
on 09 Sep, 2012 18:53
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Isn't the 1.9 pump body also a bit longer than the 1.6?
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#8
by
burn_your_money
on 09 Sep, 2012 21:18
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Isn't the 1.9 pump body also a bit longer than the 1.6?
The 1.9 has an extended nose, but that doesn't come into play because it is on the other end of the injection pump bracket.
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#9
by
Powered by Spearco
on 09 Sep, 2012 21:22
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I'm using the 1.6 TD lines on 1.9 injectors with the long delivery valves.
Only slight bending was needed to make them work and can still be used on 1.6 injectors.
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#10
by
TurboJ
on 10 Sep, 2012 06:09
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Isn't the 1.9 pump body also a bit longer than the 1.6?
I have an Iveco 2.5 TD pump which is a LOT longer than a 1.6 pump
I guess I'll have to do some bending no matter what, I just hope that won't affect flow rates of the individual pipes...
Of course I could get a set of second hand pipes first and then use them as a template. Every part on this engine needs
to be new you know
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#11
by
TurboJ
on 10 Sep, 2012 06:10
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Probably ones from a Mercedes 300 series 3.0 L 5-cylinder.
Have you tried them? This is an interesting idea. I wonder if the pipes have the same diameter.
Even very small diameter differences can cause surprising effects...
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#12
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 10 Sep, 2012 14:19
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There aren't any lines that will fit that combination without bending them because the taller injectors were never used with the shorter block. If you use 1.6 injectors you could use 1.6 lines. 1.9 lines won't fit because the 1.9 block is taller.
the PUMP is in the same spot as the 1.6, is it not?
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#13
by
Jetmugg
on 10 Sep, 2012 15:11
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Probably ones from a Mercedes 300 series 3.0 L 5-cylinder.
Have you tried them? This is an interesting idea. I wonder if the pipes have the same diameter.
Even very small diameter differences can cause surprising effects...
Mercedes uses inline pumps, it would be a miracle if those lines would work on a VW 1.6/1.9 setup.
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#14
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 10 Sep, 2012 15:49
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Probably ones from a Mercedes 300 series 3.0 L 5-cylinder.
Have you tried them? This is an interesting idea. I wonder if the pipes have the same diameter.
Even very small diameter differences can cause surprising effects...
Mercedes uses inline pumps, it would be a miracle if those lines would work on a VW 1.6/1.9 setup.
i dont see 300D lines working easily...
the merc uses an inline Bosch A pump..