Help me choose the right engine mounts for my 1.6 TD!

[damac]

I got whatever germanautoparts sells as replacements for my 85 jetta td.  helped allot in that my car doesn't really vibrate bad.  at idle you can detect the bumps but its not enough to make your cd player skip or anything, even with my car starting up cold.

But what I noticed is the tranny mount is too soft for my liking.  The whole thing shifts when on/off power suddenly and I hate it.

Somebody sold me some other cars solid rubber mount and I got it to fit by trimming the mounting plate slightly and it helped with the power delivery issue, BUT translated bad vibrations into the dash so I had to yank it.

As soon as I'm on the pedal and driving my engine is really smooth though all the way to reving it out, the little bumps in the dash go away.

[theman53]

how is your idle? maybe just set low.

[TurboJ]

theman53, can you comment on your idea about replacing hydraulic rear mount with a rubber one?

See my reply to you on this thread!    ( thanks )

[theman53]

IMHO I think the factory went to hydro to make it more like a gas car feel. I could be off. I haven't owned a car with the hydro mount only driven one. I noticed no difference in "dash shake". I want the performance of the rubber mount with the poly insert, but I cannot drive one like that. The dash and rearview mirror dance at idle with that insert. Mine had VERY little noise at idle with the poly trans mount installed new. But like everything they break in and now it feels like everything is brand new stock rubber stuff...give it 1,000 miles or so.

A long winded way to say, yes if it were me and it was easily sourced I would grab the rubber mount and put it in place of the hydro one.

BTW if you need an engine mount for the low mounted turbo you are going with let me know I am making some cheap.
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=29844.0

[R.O.R-2.0]

the mount for the rubber isolator breaks/cracks..

beware..

ive broken them with GASSER engines as well..

thats why i kept the stock hydro mount in my Jetta..

its got full hydro mounts, and i dont mind it.. its DEFINITELY 100% better than the mk1 mounts..

[TurboJ]

The stock hydro... This is so funny. In Europe the diesels have the rubber rear mount as standard.
The hydro rear is only used on the G60 and '89-'91 16V.

Like all others, my TD came with the rubber mount and I'm thinking whether I should upgrade to the G60 rear mount.
It has to be stiffer because it was designed to handle the power of the G60 engine.

I did use a rubber rear on the gasser Jetta but when filled with silicone it was too harsh.
I don't know how it would hold the engine without any filler though.

MAYBE the North American market got another hydraulic mount for the diesel, a softer one?

Man is this difficult...

[CrazyAndy]

The stock hydro... This is so funny. In Europe the diesels have the rubber rear mount as standard.
The hydro rear is only used on the G60 and '89-'91 16V.

MAYBE the North American market got another hydraulic mount for the diesel, a softer one?

Man is this difficult...

Mount PN's would confirm this.  Wish I could say for sure, but I don't own a MK2. I do know one thing after being in a dealership, though; CHECK YOUR PN's.   
Personally, though, if the hydro can take the punishment of a 200 hp diesel and be comfortable that's the one I'd pick.  The downside is that they're probably more expensive and could leak.

[pitargue]

I have a mk1.  I'm using the yellow BlackForest poly mounts on front, trans, passenger side.  The rear is the stock rubber mount.  At idle, it definitely transfers the vibrations more than the stock rubber mk1 mounts.  But it's liveable, to me anyway.

[oldpoopie]

I used the techtonics tuning oem ones and the on/off/on throttle engine movement is more than id like.

[vanbcguy]

That works as it is related.

I make a mount so you can run a low mounted turbo easier. For the vnt 15 it is now bolt on and go, for other turbos it is close but may need grinding. At any rate I have made it Tri-sexual with the 3 different cast mounts. Mk2 gasser, mk2 diesel, and Mk3 one hole. Depending on how they drilled the cast mount or if they replaced the piece on the car to accept the Mk2 mount then it could be off about 1". The Mk2 mount in place of the Mk3 mount would be around 1" shorter from engine to holes, so your engine would be around 1" further toward the fire wall. If that is what you are having then I would say that is it.

Guess I'll have to get the camera down there and shoot some pics!!

I've broken one front mount bracket already, and the replacement is REALLY stretched to fit.  The front mount is skewed way back towards the firewall and is definitely too short.  I didn't do the 1.6 swap on the car (honestly when I bought Jezzie I couldn't tell you the difference between a 1.6 and an AAZ on sight, and got a "surprise" as a result)... whoever did the swap though was pretty lazy.  They left the AC compressor on the car for instance even though it was a non-AC body.  I can also tell you with absolute certainty that a Mk II PS pump will work fine with a Mk III steering rack as a result.  I would not be at ALL surprised to find the Mk II bracket was left attached to the block, resulting in whatever mystery mess I have now.

If it turns out the bracket is the problem maybe I'll hit you up!

I did eventually sort out what was wrong with my mounts, in case anyone is interested...  The front mount was a Mk II mount in a Mk III body.  The Mk II mount is about an inch shorter than the Mk III mount.  While they somehow had stretched the rubber mounts enough to get ONE bolt in, the proper fix was to put an actual Mk III front mount in place.  Surprisingly everything just lined up when I did that.  Really makes me wonder about the shop that was doing the work - I guess they must have been in there with one hell of a pry bar.   

[8v-of-fury]

Really makes me wonder about the shop that was doing the work - I guess they must have been in there with one hell of a pry bar.   

It is why I took initiative! My car has never seen a shop, and I stood beside the guy that did my safety.. As he had my breaks apart for inspection.. yeah he's licensed, but its my life!

[nwcali6]

  When I built my Jeep I didn't use VW mounts.  I am not even sure what they came on, picked out some rather simple looking rubber mounts, most likely came stock on some old chevy or dodge.  Vibration isn't a problem..

  I think, like the foam over the defrost system, VW might miss the engineering goal by making things way more complicated than need be...

 

[8v-of-fury]

VW might miss the engineering goal by making things way more complicated than need be...

Blasphemy! LOLO

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

Anyone with experience with the Rein Automotive front hydraulic engine mount 191199279C? Rein is part of CRP Industries. I need to replace mine which has probably 200K or more miles and the mount center bolt is a little off centered and collapsed on the rubber.

https://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=lcm2oh55c1twyl45kglkgwqy&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1283486@JETTA%20GL%20TDI%20&year=1992&cid=mount@mount&gid=5552@Engine/Motor%20Mount

http://www.reinautomotive.com/

http://www.reinautomotive.com/au_reincrp.asp