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Reply #435November 10, 2013, 04:19:21 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #435 on: November 10, 2013, 04:19:21 pm »
Does not matter, would like to see anyway :D

The project thread is on a locked part of a Norwegian forum, only for paying members :(

curious to know what the pump was doing. I have never seen one drown in diesel. Also, what porting was done to the head?

Engine studdered and shaked, then full power from 4000rpm, it is a maxed out custom 11mm pump so maybe a bit too agressive at lower RPMs but has not been like this on the road. It is a 1.6 head with 1.9/aaz intake valves. Ported but not flow tested unfortunately. Ported by a famous Norwegian head builder that has done a lot of crazy stuff before.
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Reply #436November 11, 2013, 03:03:07 pm

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Reply #437December 10, 2013, 08:43:58 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #437 on: December 10, 2013, 08:43:58 pm »
Been a while, actually 1 month since I started the car. Need to retime it as it is very clacky now that it is cold.

Reply #438December 11, 2013, 12:29:49 am

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« Reply #438 on: December 11, 2013, 12:29:49 am »
Are you going to use a timing gauge? Or rather, time it by ear? What is it set to now?

Reply #439December 11, 2013, 09:14:14 am

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #439 on: December 11, 2013, 09:14:14 am »
It is at 1.00mm now, I am using a gauge as I need to know where it is for repeatability. I am going to set it to .93mm ish. It is supposed to be in between .9mm and .95mm per giles, but that was for the standard 23:1 compression and I am about 17:1 or so by guessing with the volume I have in the precups, valves, and space above piston. Giles didn't have a spec for that. Apparently, if the rings are new then it fires right up and that is what I was worried about. Started without being plugged in at 16f but cranks slow. All signs to me say too much advance...that and I had to lose my 1000cca battery because the intercooler piping won't let it fit.

Reply #440January 04, 2014, 05:20:11 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #440 on: January 04, 2014, 05:20:11 pm »
I didn't get to time it, but I did fire it up and make a long run today. I changed the oil as it was due. I kind of hate all the extra oil with the cooler and lines as it is a 6 quart oil change when it is all done.
FWIW the noise from the injection I didn't notice near as bad today. It was around 11f when I started and it was progressively getting warmer all day. I still want to re time to .93mm or so and see how it does.

The most amazing thing is it started this cold out sitting since Nov. 11th with no block heater with all the reduced compression. It didn't like running and I had to give it 1/4 pedal to idle, but it lit the 3rd hit and kept running. I am impressed with that.

The thing that sucks is with the all seasons on it and all the grunt it has driving in the snow was almost suicidal.

Reply #441January 04, 2014, 06:05:44 pm

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« Reply #441 on: January 04, 2014, 06:05:44 pm »
Could you elaborate on the amount of fabrication you did on you turbo?
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Reply #442January 04, 2014, 07:17:38 pm

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« Reply #442 on: January 04, 2014, 07:17:38 pm »
look on page 24 to start, I showed pics of what I did.

Reply #443January 04, 2014, 07:38:24 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #443 on: January 04, 2014, 07:38:24 pm »
I didn't get to time it, but I did fire it up and make a long run today. I changed the oil as it was due. I kind of hate all the extra oil with the cooler and lines as it is a 6 quart oil change when it is all done.
FWIW the noise from the injection I didn't notice near as bad today. It was around 11f when I started and it was progressively getting warmer all day. I still want to re time to .93mm or so and see how it does.

The most amazing thing is it started this cold out sitting since Nov. 11th with no block heater with all the reduced compression. It didn't like running and I had to give it 1/4 pedal to idle, but it lit the 3rd hit and kept running. I am impressed with that.

The thing that sucks is with the all seasons on it and all the grunt it has driving in the snow was almost suicidal.

Glad to hear it's running well. What's the trick to getting the oil in the cooler to drain? I have one now (my first) and I hadn't thought about that.
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Reply #444January 04, 2014, 08:57:06 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #444 on: January 04, 2014, 08:57:06 pm »
Glad to hear it's running well. What's the trick to getting the oil in the cooler to drain? I have one now (my first) and I hadn't thought about that.

Either blowing it through, not worrying about it.. or making sure you mounted it so the lines are always downward to drain back.

Reply #445January 04, 2014, 09:14:19 pm

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« Reply #445 on: January 04, 2014, 09:14:19 pm »
I still want to re time to .93mm or so and see how it does.

It didn't like running and I had to give it 1/4 pedal to idle, but it lit the 3rd hit and kept running.

If it is already having cold running issues, retarding the timing that far will likely make it much worse. Try less at a time.

Reply #446January 05, 2014, 09:39:53 am

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« Reply #446 on: January 05, 2014, 09:39:53 am »
As much as I messed with this thing I really thing the extra advance is too much. I think it is fighting the piston coming up. After 10 seconds or so at 1/4 pedal it would idle on its own, but it was still rough idle. 11f was what it was when I started it, but it was around 0f overnight so everything was pretty cold. I really thought that it wouldn't start with the lower compression, but with the one key turn and the 3rd hit it was lit. I still want to shoot for .93 but if I hit .95 that is probably where it will stay.

Reply #447January 19, 2014, 11:15:46 pm

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« Reply #447 on: January 19, 2014, 11:15:46 pm »
Awesome build I have been picking through it pretty closely and am very impressed. Did you ever elaborate on what special magic you poured into the head? I just picked up a 1Y that is gonna find its home in my caddy and I'm looking to do a build and I'm trying to find some basis on what we can really get these heads to flow.

Please dear god don't sell this!

Reply #448January 20, 2014, 01:56:13 am

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« Reply #448 on: January 20, 2014, 01:56:13 am »
I've always been really astounded that there was no comments on the head. Look very closely at the photos....if they are all still up. There are things to see that I don't think anyone ever asked about.
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Reply #449January 20, 2014, 02:01:23 am

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« Reply #449 on: January 20, 2014, 02:01:23 am »
I've always been really astounded that there was no comments on the head. Look very closely at the photos....if they are all still up. There are things to see that I don't think anyone ever asked about.

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