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Reply #315September 08, 2013, 09:16:29 am

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #315 on: September 08, 2013, 09:16:29 am »
Theman, As I recall, you were waiting (forever) for some flow info from the guy that did your head. I'll bet those numbers would help right about now.
One thing for sure - this ain't no 1.6 anymore ;D

page 19 on my screen I posted the intake numbers and then the numbers from the last head and stock. It flows basically 150cfm at full lift intake wise

. . .Thought I watching closer, thanks
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Reply #316September 08, 2013, 09:46:35 am

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #316 on: September 08, 2013, 09:46:35 am »
I may have reached my limit. I would sell it as is if someone wanted to come and get it. I just don't want to spend another 600-1000 dollars on it and work for another bit on fabbing it all together. I thought about it last night and figured I would be calmed down this morning, but the more I think about it the more pissed off I get.
Car, engine, trans, and all the extra mk2 parts and an 02A from a TDI ---- come get it for 5,000.00 USD... I have more than that invested in the pump, head, block, clutch, and trans.

Reply #317September 08, 2013, 10:47:28 am

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« Reply #317 on: September 08, 2013, 10:47:28 am »
wow... we know this gotta hurt..

Reply #318September 08, 2013, 10:56:52 am

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #318 on: September 08, 2013, 10:56:52 am »
I may have reached my limit. I would sell it as is if someone wanted to come and get it. I just don't want to spend another 600-1000 dollars on it and work for another bit on fabbing it all together. I thought about it last night and figured I would be calmed down this morning, but the more I think about it the more pissed off I get.
Car, engine, trans, and all the extra mk2 parts and an 02A from a TDI ---- come get it for 5,000.00 USD... I have more than that invested in the pump, head, block, clutch, and trans.
I feel for you Mr -what with a new baby and all. But there's no harm in letting it sit for a week or two. Who knows, maybe someone will hand you a better turbo or you'll figure out what it needs.
I didn't know an engine could over-spin a turbo. Boost pressures too high, yes, but is sounds like you were well below spec on pressure.

Did the mishap cause any engine damage?
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Reply #319September 08, 2013, 11:27:49 am

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #319 on: September 08, 2013, 11:27:49 am »
I really don't think it did any engine damage. I was not on it when it started to go and it didn't get to even 4,000 rpm *guessing* and I dumped the clutch. The oil is still almost full maybe 1/4 quart low, so it didn't run long. 5 seconds maybe, so I really don't think it hurt a single thing.

Reply #320September 08, 2013, 02:57:53 pm

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« Reply #320 on: September 08, 2013, 02:57:53 pm »
Making good progress getting through this whole build thread finally! You were barely diggin into it when I was starting my car. Sooo much has happened in the last year!

Your speak of getting a "driving award" almost killed me hahaha I have surprisingly never heard that before! Hopefully, by the time I get to the very end of this thread, all is well. I don't want to skip to the end of the book yet, but I had to chime in ;)

Reply #321September 08, 2013, 03:30:51 pm

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« Reply #321 on: September 08, 2013, 03:30:51 pm »
....aaaaand this sucks too much to be a final chapter! I am hurting for you! This thing is BAD! I have zero turbo experience, but I feel like I learned a bunch just from this thread. Hope something amazing happens with getting a new snail and you don't have to ditch it. Mad props!

Reply #322September 08, 2013, 04:59:02 pm

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« Reply #322 on: September 08, 2013, 04:59:02 pm »
Maybe just use an adapter plate to attach the holset?
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Reply #323September 08, 2013, 06:13:50 pm

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« Reply #323 on: September 08, 2013, 06:13:50 pm »
Your T3 45 trim is a 20lbs/min compressor, the smallest HE221W flows about 35lbs/min ;)
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Reply #324September 08, 2013, 08:28:52 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #324 on: September 08, 2013, 08:28:52 pm »
Your T3 45 trim is a 20lbs/min compressor, the smallest HE221W flows about 35lbs/min ;)
I was reading about that on a truck forum. That is what they said too 35 lb/min. Is there a way to convert cfm to lb/min or how to you size these things?

Also, how hard is it to make this work on the 1.6l? New downpipe, oil lines, manifold, etc? or is it fairly easy to mate it to stock VW stuff like the manifold and DP? Do you have a manifold and downpipe included at that 500.00 price, if so I will find a way to get it.
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Reply #325September 09, 2013, 12:23:12 am

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« Reply #325 on: September 09, 2013, 12:23:12 am »
An adapterplate might work on a stock 1.6TD manifold, as it's a very compact turbo. The turbo uses a standard T25 flange. Downpipe flange is a MHI TD04 design. I have made CAD drawings for both flanges if you'd like to cut them yourself or get it done locally. Oil feed is M10x1.25 thread (Garretts are M10x1.00), oil drain is 38mm bolt-bolt oil drain as used on many Garrett and MHI turbos. details here:



Don't have any parts already made to go with it, It's a brand spankin' new and unused turbo
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Reply #326September 09, 2013, 09:24:58 am

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« Reply #326 on: September 09, 2013, 09:24:58 am »
Post me some pics. It looks like I will have to get it running to sell it.

Reply #327September 09, 2013, 06:23:54 pm

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« Reply #327 on: September 09, 2013, 06:23:54 pm »
Looks like the same drain as the K24 and T3 that vw had. I am interested, very interested. If possible could you see how bad shipping would be from you to 44611. Any and all help would be great on the Down Pipe. When I said post pics, I just mean of the turbo to see how it is shaped to see if it will be easy or as hard as I think it will be.

Reply #328September 09, 2013, 10:24:23 pm

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Re: I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D
« Reply #328 on: September 09, 2013, 10:24:23 pm »
if you look at the volvo cores i left you i think its the same 3 bolt style set up...

Reply #329September 09, 2013, 11:25:34 pm

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« Reply #329 on: September 09, 2013, 11:25:34 pm »






I'm actually in Canada these days so would have to check up shipping when I'm back in Norway, but I would guess it's somewhere in the region of 100$
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