Air intake refresher course.

[billybobf]

you have to consider that a certain amount of water would be fine, if not a good thing. while on the flip side yes, too much could be instantly horrible. gassers have used water injection to increase power. I think that in small quantities water could have similar effects as an intercooler and turbo in one, it would increase the compression ratio, and provide cooler air, as well as take more heat OUT the exhaust. Just my opinion though as I havent tested anything like this

[theman53]

I did put a screen in mine after that as I was cleaning the filter alot. I now have UNI FILTER...the mesh they use to make their filters and would zip tie it over the end to keep stuff out now.

We had some great storms and above the bumper where I had it the element never even felt wet. I would think you would have to get around a tbsp in one hole to hydro lock it. In my case I really don't see how you could get that much to one hole past the filter. I am sure somehow it could but I think it would be the perfect storm. It seemed like the faster you went with this setup the less got in there. Bumper, wind, grill, and screen really busted stuff up.

[R.O.R-2.0]

Utilizing the description by Damac, I think that "one of these ram air things through the grill" will help induce at least a  messed up/mushed out air filter element, and possibly even "hydrolock" if used during a nice rainstorm! Otherwise, go for it.

Sorry... haven't found the 'good & cheap' answer yet, but haven't given up yet either. The tube really needs a rain-dump curve & pre-drain.

J.R.
SoCal

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

dude, if its approved for use in oregon, then it will work ANYWHERE..

[CrazyAndy]

dude, if its approved for use in oregon, then it will work ANYWHERE..

LOL  .  Sig'd 4 truth.

[fdnyguy]

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=13514.0

once again the stupid myspace site won't keep pics going. I will get one and post it up. I think the most important deal with my setup was the forced air part. It really rocked going down the highway when the highway speed air was running into it.






It all could have been done with aluminum intercooler tubing and if I did it again that is what I would do, but this rocked the Flat Maroon Bunny.

Moving off the aluminum intercooler tubing, would it be crazy to maybe have one of your Amish buddies build a custom intake(s), either with a 3" opening or complete aluminum pipe running to the original air intake on the RF fender? If not aluminum,go with PVC or a 3" intake hose(??) I have looked into machine shops near me here, but you guys have tons of knowledge with these setups more than I do, and besides adding clip holders, I would also guess that some sort of foam rubber seal would have to be glued to possibly fit as well() No doubt you can describe it better, and I tend to think Amish labor will be cheaper than NYC labor......

Just an idea, maybe you guys can carry the ball from here...

Stay safe, stay well. Jimmy.

[R.O.R-2.0]

dude, if its approved for use in oregon, then it will work ANYWHERE..

LOL  .  Sig'd 4 truth.

the whole quote never made it to your sig tho...

i really appreciate it when people find the things i say, to be humorous..

there are quite a few people around the forums with quotes from me, as there sig's..

maybe ive just been around too long?! 

[ORCoaster]

I wouldn't say you have been around too long but there are other statistics that are more telling.

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[theman53]

He had been on for more than that. The Rabbit on Roids original acount was banned lol

[ORCoaster]

And we know why don't we?

[CrazyAndy]

dude, if its approved for use in oregon, then it will work ANYWHERE..

LOL  .  Sig'd 4 truth.

the whole quote never made it to your sig tho...

i really appreciate it when people find the things i say, to be humorous..

there are quite a few people around the forums with quotes from me, as there sig's..

maybe ive just been around too long?! 

Oops, thanks for noting that; fixed.

And the frequency of your quotes shows a consensus among users of acceptance your opinions and humor.  A kind of online measure of respect, I guess.  Count me on that list. 

[ldeikis]

I'm trying to solve a leaky vcg and installed a G60 cast valve cover.  Took a long time b/c I had to clearance the lip of the inner timing belt cover (yes, I *know* some folks have posted theirs bolted right up, but this was absolutely fouling), then I had to drive to the store and get a different gasket b/c the one I got from GAP didn't fit right.  Finally got it bolted on, went to put on the stock snorkel thing (upgrading that to a larger diameter intake is on the soon-to-do list) and HEY!  You can't put the stock airbox lid back on with the G60 there!  It's too tall--the snorkel outlet is pretty much straight into the back of the valve cover.  Even if I pull the snorkel off, the nipple that the snorkel mounts to fouls by about an inch.  Christ.

So now what?  I think a MK2 airbox lid exits out the side, but that would be right into the fuel filter, right?  I'm willing to fab something up, but not sure how to go about it...  with the lack of clearance against the G60 cover the intake is going to have a pretty severe turn in it SOMEWHERE, and utilizing the OEM snout location (modified or otherwise) is pretty much out of the question.

Anyone done this?

Luke

[fdnyguy]

I'm trying to solve a leaky vcg and installed a G60 cast valve cover.  Took a long time b/c I had to clearance the lip of the inner timing belt cover (yes, I *know* some folks have posted theirs bolted right up, but this was absolutely fouling), then I had to drive to the store and get a different gasket b/c the one I got from GAP didn't fit right.  Finally got it bolted on, went to put on the stock snorkel thing (upgrading that to a larger diameter intake is on the soon-to-do list) and HEY!  You can't put the stock air box lid back on with the G60 there!  It's too tall--the snorkel outlet is pretty much straight into the back of the valve cover.  Even if I pull the snorkel off, the nipple that the snorkel mounts to fouls by about an inch.  Christ.

So now what?  I think a MK2 air box lid exits out the side, but that would be right into the fuel filter, right?  I'm willing to fab something up, but not sure how to go about it...  with the lack of clearance against the G60 cover the intake is going to have a pretty severe turn in it SOMEWHERE, and utilizing the OEM snout location (modified or otherwise) is pretty much out of the question.

Anyone done this?

Luke

I'm in the same boat, but with different oars. However, even with my limited mechanical skills, I'm thinking about going off the center and try to plug up the snorkel intake on the right side. While a 3" PVC might be TOO big for a Mk2, anything is better than the snorkel intake there now (Hell, 2" may do the trick...Gentlemen???). Should there be no room off the center, I've inquired on here about having one made out of sheet metal, then running the air intake off the side into the RF fender, where the original hose was hooked up to. FWIW, trying to make the snorkel intake bigger may not work out well. But then again, my skills are not good to begin with, and someone may be able to.

If anyone knows what will and not work, it's the members on here.  Even ideas on how to modify your Mk2 snorkel.  Good luck. Let me know. I'd love to hear it.

Stay safe, stay well. Jimmy.

[Smokey Eddy]

I had to drive 10,000km before my mileage went back up.

[ldeikis]

Necessity being the mother of...  something...  I went out and made it happen.  I noticed that if you flip the mk1 intake cover upside down, it presents you with a nice square, handily angled at a 45 degree angle.  It still won't fit with the G60 cover-- in fact, upside down it doesn't fit by an even larger margin--but a plan was born.  I cut off the snout, then proceeded to grind more and more off until it would fit between the G60 cover and the airbox.  Turns out, you can grind it down flat and it STILL won't fit.  So I got out the heat gun and melted the front of the box a bit and smushed it until it fit.  Then I realized that the filter sticks out a hair, and you can't get it in position with the filter unless you smush it more.  So I did.  It looks like hell in this pic, but I don't think it's smushed much more than a half inch.  Then I dremel'd a hole in it in the aforementioned square spot:



I got the suction hose off an old shopvac and fit that into the hole just perfect, then closed up the opening where the original snout was with some plastic from a bucket, a couple screws and some RTV.  Used more RTV to seal up the hose entrance.  Here's a pic before the RTV:



and



The hose is only a hair more than 2" ID, but I measured the tip of the snorkel at about 1.5", so that's a full double the cross section if I did my Pi R squared right.  Unfortunately the shop vac hose is corrugated inside, which isn't doing anything great for turbulence, but so it goes.  My initial thought was to use suction hose from an irrigation pump, but the only 2" line I have around can't be cut up for the car.  With the extra height of the G60 cover I don't think I could close the hood on much more than 2"--maybe 2.5 if it was run just perfectly tight.  Right now it just sort of sits behind the right headlight, we'll see how that works.  I can't tell any appreciable difference in sound or performance, but I've got a huge crack in my exhaust at the moment, so it would have to be pretty outrageous to notice the sound.  New exhaust (and homemade downpipe) are on the way.

If nothing else, the G60 cover seems to have solved the damn leak.

Luke

[billybobf]

heat gun to thinwall PVC? you could bend, shape, and FLATTEN it