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80% peloquin shim kit
by
8v-of-fury
on 13 Jan, 2012 23:06
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Anyone use one of these on a 90mm 020 transmission?
I was looking at getting a kit, and using it on an 84 4A 4 speed. No more 1-tyre-fryer.
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#1
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 13 Jan, 2012 23:33
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for some reason, i dont think you are supposed to use them with 90mm drive flanges.. i think the axles hit the bolt heads..
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#2
by
8v-of-fury
on 13 Jan, 2012 23:37
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I read that they are recommended for the 100mm, but it says to call for information.. So i guess i'll call them in the morning.
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#3
by
theman53
on 14 Jan, 2012 15:28
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I put them in on my 100mm and the axles still hit the bolt. I think the kit was intended for those who stick to VW CV shafts, as the rebuilt ones I got from advanced auto were about 1/4" longer than stock ones past the clip. I just took a grinder to mine and shaved it down almost to that clip...That is what the guy told me to do if I was going to try to use the 90mm when I called. I thought I would have been safe since I used the 100mm but I wasn't. IIRC the driver side is the only one to worry about as the passenger will just tighten if it rubs.
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#4
by
Pat Dolan
on 13 Feb, 2012 08:20
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Anyone use one of these on a 90mm 020 transmission?
I was looking at getting a kit, and using it on an 84 4A 4 speed. No more 1-tyre-fryer.
Just curious when people buy this stuff: exactly what do you think 80% means? 80% of what???
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#5
by
theman53
on 13 Feb, 2012 09:23
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80% should be better than the stock 20% I think is what it means. If my math is accurate should be right around 4x better. The diff used to have a rattle in the early trans so the factory put a preload kit in it to stop that. The bonus result was that both tires had better traction than before, or it was a touch harder to get one wheel peel ... whatever way you want to view it. If you go to brokevw's site he did a test with a torque wrench with the various bushings installed and posted his results.
For those not familiar with his site.
http://www.brokevw.com/difftest.html
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#6
by
Pat Dolan
on 13 Feb, 2012 20:53
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If you were driving on glare ice with bare tires, the diff might give you some advantage from increased traction, but the amount of torque it takes to break a wheel loose is HUGE - at least 500 lb/ft on a MkI drive wheel on pavement with street rubber. 140 lb/ft MIGHT work in a straight line, but not exiting a turn. Would also give enough feedback torque to make a Peloquin Torsen diff work when unloaded - maybe?
?
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#7
by
8v-of-fury
on 13 Feb, 2012 21:07
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I have driven Early and Late mk1 trannies both on stock na diesels.. The pre-81 trans have no preload (4-5ft.lbs) and the one tire takes all the power.. currently still on this trans. If there is even sand on the road its one tire fryer.
The later trans 84 and up have the 20% stock setup, and they are already loads better than the early trans. a 40% kit would be leaps over that, and 80 again.
The say the 80 takes nearly 150 ft.lbs, which is more than most Volkswagen's make. I see no reason why it would not hold in a turn? Unless your car makes more than 150ft.lbs the nit should be good to go no?
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#8
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Pat Dolan
on 13 Feb, 2012 21:27
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The say the 80 takes nearly 150 ft.lbs, which is more than most Volkswagen's make. I see no reason why it would not hold in a turn? Unless your car makes more than 150ft.lbs the nit should be good to go no?
Uh.....MkII diesel is 3.92 final drive X 3.45 first gear makes that 100 lb/ft at the crank delivers 1,350 lb/ft at the diff/driveshaft.
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#9
by
8v-of-fury
on 13 Feb, 2012 21:32
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Well a corner in first gear on any car will be able to break that inner tire loose.. I was not thinking you meant from a dead stop..
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#10
by
theman53
on 13 Feb, 2012 22:51
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That was on a test bench...in the real world the tires are both moving with the car in the same direction. I personally have the 80% kit installed in my car and after a year it was still working. All of the rabbits I had at the farm would spin the passenger tire coming up the drive and especially into the barn. The jetta that had probably triple the power of the rabbits I had would spin both tires in the exact same drive. Is that 100% scientific, no, as there are many variables. The point is it does work and actually quite well for me. I am sure others have had similar experiences. Mine was so good of an experience that I will put the 80% kit into every trans I take the flanges off of...if I have the $$$ to do it at that time. which if I am taking the trans out I probably do have the coin.
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#11
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 20 Feb, 2012 14:18
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That was on a test bench...in the real world the tires are both moving with the car in the same direction. I personally have the 80% kit installed in my car and after a year it was still working. All of the rabbits I had at the farm would spin the passenger tire coming up the drive and especially into the barn. The jetta that had probably triple the power of the rabbits I had would spin both tires in the exact same drive. Is that 100% scientific, no, as there are many variables. The point is it does work and actually quite well for me. I am sure others have had similar experiences. Mine was so good of an experience that I will put the 80% kit into every trans I take the flanges off of...if I have the $$$ to do it at that time. which if I am taking the trans out I probably do have the coin.
i thought they quit making the mini slip kits tho?
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#12
by
theman53
on 20 Feb, 2012 21:21
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#13
by
bbob203
on 25 Jul, 2012 13:18
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Looks like with the 40% kit its just a washer with a flange seal kit and new tapered sleeve.
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#14
by
bbob203
on 25 Jul, 2012 17:29
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Looks like with the 40% kit its just a washer with a flange seal kit and new tapered sleeve.
just went to the parts store bought some 1 1/8th inch id washers fit pefectly onto the drive spline installed cup washer, flange spring, flange and concave washer finally the circleclip. a 1 dollar 40% kit. now granted what peloquins is selling is still a good deal. because if youve never replaced your flange seals you get the tool new seals circleclips etc.