Author Topic: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D  (Read 22584 times)

Reply #30January 22, 2012, 06:16:30 pm

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Re: mk2 gli to 1.6d (mk1) swap
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2012, 06:16:30 pm »
If you don't do the proper pattern, sequence, torque values, the gasket will fail sooner than later. Anything past 1000 miles would be a miracle.


Thought i might should say to clarify,

i don't just mean your leak will start again -
i mean a car that will no longer run.

just trying to help you from damaging or disabling your machinery.
fwiw   :)

Reply #31January 22, 2012, 08:44:53 pm

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Re: mk2 gli to 1.6d (mk1) swap
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2012, 08:44:53 pm »
thanks for the help
i used proper pattern and they are pretty tight.
got a bently.
but ill get new bolts man.
thanks for your help. i appreciate it.

Reply #32January 22, 2012, 08:53:14 pm

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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2012, 08:53:14 pm »
will these work? this guy is in charlotte i can pick them up.
http://www.westportparts.com/068103384AHeadBolts.htm

Reply #33January 22, 2012, 09:54:46 pm

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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2012, 09:54:46 pm »
That's one of Prothes / Hans websites.
Most of his stuff is absolutely bottom of the barrel quality.
Not ALL of it - but Most of it.
None of it is name brand.
Hence why he is a few dollars cheaper on some parts.

His bolts are probably suitable.
But to be completely honest - i would pay $5-$10 more from a better source. I wouldn't buy your vac pump kit there either.

Any part of the car that can leave you stranded or damage your machinery if it fails, or is complicated labor - most of us will not buy those pieces from him.

90% of his stuff you can get top quality brand name instead for same or lil bit more, sometimes even less, from proper channels.

Gear shift knobs, relay ball shafts for mk2, locking fuel caps, coolant expansion tanks, some things of that nature - he is good for.
His radiators and turbo downpipes are pretty good and real good value.
His pistons have been found acceptable, but the rings are lacking.

Fuel filters, air filters, timing belts, injection pumps, critical mechanical parts - he|| no. Some of those parts i have tried myself, some i have seen/inspected (cheap is usually cheap), and some there have been numerous horror stories about.

AutohausAZ and RockAuto are your friends.
Become fluent with their websites and offerings.
Use CarQuest on emergency items, and try to make a good friend with someone there and you'll get AhausAZ type prices on Worldpac items.

ALWAYS a good idea to ask others advice first before buying any part from Pete Rothenbacher Enterprises in Charlotte/Matthews/Indian Trail NC.

Some things yes, a lot of things No.

Reply #34January 22, 2012, 09:57:15 pm

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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2012, 09:57:15 pm »
will these work? this guy is in charlotte i can pick them up.
http://www.westportparts.com/068103384AHeadBolts.htm

Were yours 11mm or 12mm ?
Up through 81 or 82 they were 11mm

Did you have allen head bolts or 12 point triple-square ?

Reply #35January 23, 2012, 05:03:12 am

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Re: mk2 gli to 1.6d (mk1) swap
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 05:03:12 am »
will these work? this guy is in charlotte i can pick them up.
http://www.westportparts.com/068103384AHeadBolts.htm

Those won't work. Neither will most of the engine products on that site.

Reply #36January 23, 2012, 05:39:32 am

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Re: mk2 gli to 1.6d (mk1) swap
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 05:39:32 am »
my bolts where triple square head so im guessing they are 12mm.
um wow yea his prices are kinda to good to be true.

dont know if i want to wait and order headbolts somewhere else.
kinda want to drive the mk2 already lol
his head gaskets no good either?
i bought my rebuilt gasket and seal kit from rockauto. rings from rockauto.


Reply #37January 23, 2012, 05:41:17 am

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Re: mk2 gli to 1.6d (mk1) swap
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 05:41:17 am »
OMG

Get the correct and quality headbolts.  Get a good headgasket also.  Get a torque wrench and do it exactly as the bentley says.  germanautoparts.com is another good site to buy all this stuff from.  I would get the head checked if I took it off by the machine shop.  Have you changed the timing belt/tensioner also?
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Reply #38January 23, 2012, 06:01:01 am

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Re: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 06:01:01 am »
That is Prothe. All his engine parts minus the pistons *take the rings off and install different ones* are not usable in my opinion. Search prothe here and see the results of people that are ticked off because of inferior parts.

Reply #39January 23, 2012, 08:21:55 am

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 08:21:55 am »
crap! i just remembered i have the cheap rings! >:(
looks like ill be rebuilding my engine ones again.

i replaced all the seals and gaskets and full timing belt kit.

this sucks.

Reply #40January 23, 2012, 10:50:00 am

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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 10:50:00 am »
You can get Fel-Pro brand bolts/washers package from probably any of the auto parts stores same day or next day. Maybe $5 more than Prothe.

CarQuest can have WorldPac stuff the next day usually.
Not like there are no other "quick" options.
Worldpac is always european brands.

Try not to worry about what you've already done and installed from the big P. Just try to compare his price against AhAz and Rock from now on before you buy - and see that he is not such a good value.

Most of his stuff should be priced about 1/4 or 1/3 of what it is.
But 90% of it is priced very close to what good stuff costs.


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Reply #41January 23, 2012, 01:45:04 pm

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Re: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 01:45:04 pm »
You can get Fel-Pro brand bolts/washers package from probably any of the auto parts stores same day or next day. Maybe $5 more than Prothe.

CarQuest can have WorldPac stuff the next day usually.
Not like there are no other "quick" options.
Worldpac is always european brands.

Try not to worry about what you've already done and installed from the big P. Just try to compare his price against AhAz and Rock from now on before you buy - and see that he is not such a good value.

Most of his stuff should be priced about 1/4 or 1/3 of what it is.
But 90% of it is priced very close to what good stuff costs.


this bolts okay?
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=aebdnzemhjf12hngcdqzkub4&partnumber=068103384A



so AutohausAZ and RockAuto is where ill buy my parts now.
shoot torque wrenches are so expensive. can i rent one somewhere?
autohausaz has pretty good deals close to the cheap stuff.

ill be buying a new headgasket bolts and some other parts.

« Last Edit: January 23, 2012, 04:09:52 pm by slavik19 »

Reply #42January 23, 2012, 05:39:38 pm

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Re: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 05:39:38 pm »
Yeh those bolts from AhAz are good.
And with AhAz you get free shipping on orders over $50.
But, like i said before - it's usually 4-7 working days for the stuff to get to North Carolina. No probo when you can plan ahead.

You can use a torque wrench from AutoZone, Advance Auto, or O'Reillys - for Free. You have to put up a deposit - but you get 100% refund when you return the tool.

Here is another local option.
I was at O'reilly today and asked about head bolts while i was there.
FelPro was $25 a set

Since someone mentioned they thought OR's dealt WorlPac, i asked them.
They deal with IMC European supplier.
CRP headbolts $15 set
Meyle headbolts $13 set
3 days shipping from Pennsylvania to O'R (you pay ship)
And you'd have to pay tax at O'R
Total was about $20 for a set of Meyle in hand.

So don't forget about CarQuest / WorldPac
and O'Reillys / IMC
when you need good stuff quicker.

With CarQuest/Worldpac you pay no shipping and probably get parts next day. You do have to pay tax.


Reply #43January 23, 2012, 05:46:45 pm

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Re: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 05:46:45 pm »
Yeh those bolts from AhAz are good.
And with AhAz you get free shipping on orders over $50.
But, like i said before - it's usually 4-7 working days for the stuff to get to North Carolina. No probo when you can plan ahead.

You can use a torque wrench from AutoZone, Advance Auto, or O'Reillys - for Free. You have to put up a deposit - but you get 100% refund when you return the tool.

Here is another local option.
I was at O'reilly today and asked about head bolts while i was there.
FelPro was $25 a set

Since someone mentioned they thought OR's dealt WorlPac, i asked them.
They deal with IMC European supplier.
CRP headbolts $15 set
Meyle headbolts $13 set
3 days shipping from Pennsylvania to O'R (you pay ship)
And you'd have to pay tax at O'R
Total was about $20 for a set of Meyle in hand.

So don't forget about CarQuest / WorldPac
and O'Reillys / IMC
when you need good stuff quicker.

With CarQuest/Worldpac you pay no shipping and probably get parts next day. You do have to pay tax.




wow man your really help full thanks i feel like i own you something in return.

i think im going to take advantage of the free shipping and buy new OEM bosh glow plugs

Reply #44January 23, 2012, 05:54:04 pm

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Re: Jetta GLI Mk2 1986 Gas to Diesel Swap 1.6D
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 05:54:04 pm »
started it again today.  leaking oil again.