Tie rod troubles MK2

[CRSMP5]

been so long.. LOL.. if the ends are angled.. yea cannot do that.. if straight you can.. i know mk1 you can... but cannot rember if vr6 is straight or angled.. and its oppisite of vr6.. dont see many mk2 anymore..

[srgtlord]

What are you guys talking about , both sides are adjustable. I Still drive a 1987 mk2 with a manual steering rack. Go to germanautoparts.com and get the correct part.

[R.O.R-2.0]

Aren't they offset? It would mess up the geometry would it not?

you buy a new drivers side inner tie rod, and then buy a new tie rod end.. the tie rod end is universal, either L or R work on either side.

the replacement inner tie rod will have threads like the drivers side one, and will take the same outter tie rod that the drivers side has..

[srgtlord]

...the tie rod ends are angled differently for each side and are marked R for right and L for left

[R.O.R-2.0]

...the tie rod ends are angled differently for each side and are marked R for right and L for left

look at a mk3, they use the same tie rod end on both sides.. i promise. ive seen QUITE A FEW of them, from working in junk yards, and just in general while im browsing the yards..

[CRSMP5]

vr6 and 2.slow/tdi are different... one is side specific.. other is not.. just do not rember which... next.. mk3... did they even have no power steering in them?

ill have to look at the 86 coupe vr6t project... its non power... and i have the vr6 stuff to put in it... so ill have a defenitive answere tonight...

[R.O.R-2.0]

vr6 and 2.slow/tdi are different... one is side specific.. other is not.. just do not rember which... next.. mk3... did they even have no power steering in them?

ill have to look at the 86 coupe vr6t project... its non power... and i have the vr6 stuff to put in it... so ill have a defenitive answere tonight...

well, my 85 GTI still has a left tie rod end on the right side. aligned perfect, was the same part as what i took off even.

[CRSMP5]

okk my findings..

86 coupe.. has a right/left specific angle on each end at spindle.. bent say like a golf club end of putter..

mk3 vr6.. is also same with angle.. but power steering

b3/b4 vr6 passat is straight.. but 2.0/tdi is angled..

so no i do not see how it can be swapped from side to side per say... unless you buy a right side inner.. and proper outter...

[R.O.R-2.0]

i un-screwed a left tie rod end off a late mk3 2.0 w/ power steer, screwed it on my right side tie rod, and got it aligned..

[burn_your_money]

next.. mk3... did they even have no power steering in them?

No. Never.

[vanbcguy]

There is a manual steering rack available for the Mk III though...

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/quote.jsp?year=1994&product=M1000-124109&application=000551063&part=Steering%20Rack&category=M

[burn_your_money]

Very interesting...

It was my understanding from the limited research that I did in the past that the issue is finding tie rods since the mk3 ones are a few inches longer than the mk2 ones.

[R.O.R-2.0]

tyler:

"A Crock" meaning that if you think the Loop is going to convert your PS rack into a non-PS rack and be comparable to a Stock VW non-PS rack, it is a total crock. This is how these are (or at least were) being marketed. If you have no other choice (for whatever reason) but to use a PS rack with no pump, then I could see using this loop pipe. However I would strongly question why.

If you really want manual steering then you should use a MKII manual rack with the proper tie rod ends for your application (Canadian mk3 manual Tie Rod Ends are needed for Corrado + suspension). The gear ratios will be correct, etc."

pulled directly off the Whoretex..

[burn_your_money]

I've had both the looped (Actually cut) PS rack and the proper manual rack. There is worlds of difference between the two. My brothers car has the proper mk2 manual rack.

The reason for running the cut PS lines was because the mounting holes for the PS pump were broken so I couldn't tighten the belt properly and was worried about overheating. I figured if I wasn't using the PS pump I should delete it and save some weight and engine bay space.

"Canadian mk3 manual Tie Rod Ends" do not exist AFAIK