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October 10, 2011, 02:58:32 pm

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1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« on: October 10, 2011, 02:58:32 pm »
I have been looking into bigger turbos for my TDI project (hoping for 160-180hp), and was wondering if a 1.6 turbo and manifold would bolt on. If it does bolt on, then in your opinion, is a T3 or K26 too big for a TDI?

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Reply #1October 10, 2011, 10:17:30 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 10:17:30 pm »
You need to update your signature to the year of your car. Just showing us a bug, doesnt really help too much..

We need to know what year it is, if its an ALH motor then yes the 1.6 turbo diesel exhaust manifold and turbo will physically fit on the motor. It will not be a direct bolt on however.. the exhaust will not line up, and neither will the oil feed or return lines.

Reply #2October 11, 2011, 08:06:29 am

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 08:06:29 am »
sorry, it's a 2000 AHU. So, If I am understanding you correctly, the exhaust manifold will bolt up to the head, but I will need to fabricate a downpipe, oil supply line, and oil drain line, correct?

Reply #3October 11, 2011, 10:27:35 am

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 10:27:35 am »
sorry, it's a 2000 AHU. So, If I am understanding you correctly, the exhaust manifold will bolt up to the head, but I will need to fabricate a downpipe, oil supply line, and oil drain line, correct?


and an intake, and boost tubing, and everything else.. the turbo physically bolts up to the engine, but everything else needs to change..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4October 11, 2011, 11:07:36 pm

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 11:07:36 pm »
should be vnt too... so why??

Reply #5October 11, 2011, 11:22:07 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 11:22:07 pm »
2000 shouldn't be ahu, in fact no mk4 came stock with an ahu :o, and as noted above should be vnt!
Or are you modifying an ahu to put in?
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Reply #6October 12, 2011, 01:27:53 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 01:27:53 pm »
2000 should be an ALH engine, and have a stock VNT15..

going to a T3 would be a BIG DOWNGRADE if you ask me (or anyone else on this forum)

what are you trying to accomplish here?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #7November 25, 2011, 08:05:59 am

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2011, 08:05:59 am »
You are right, it's an ALH, and I wasn't aware that it was a vnt15, so I guess I'll keep it. thanks

Reply #8November 26, 2011, 05:33:01 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 05:33:01 pm »
your welcome  8)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #9December 03, 2011, 12:35:46 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 12:35:46 pm »
Wouldn't the VNT be computer controlled? Would this mod be practical for someone who wants to build no-electronics m-TDI?

Reply #10December 03, 2011, 08:46:35 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 08:46:35 pm »
Wouldn't the VNT be computer controlled? Would this mod be practical for someone who wants to build no-electronics m-TDI?

T3 would be pretty ideal on a Mtdi, as far as a stock turbo setup. there are better turbos tho, for sure..

it wouldnt be any different than running it on a 1.6, as far as electronics and that sort goes.. the 1.6, and mtdi take the same things to run, fuel, air, and 12v supply to the pump solenoid.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11December 04, 2011, 09:54:15 am

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 09:54:15 am »
Hillfolk rAn a vw t3 k24 mercedes t3 and a hy35w on his mtdi He liked the Mercedes turbo best.  And also was faster with the vw t3 over the k24.
01 Jetta TDI 100% stock daily
81 Rabbit:TDI-M ported head, Frank06 cam, PD intake, hybrid T3 turbo, Renault intercooler, Syl20 11mm pump, light weight fw, and yellow California Clutch clutch kit

Reply #12December 13, 2011, 11:19:34 am

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 11:19:34 am »
There are several VNT upgrades from the VNT15.  You could go for the VNT 17 or 17/22 hybrid.

most people arent gonna buy a 17/22 hybrid to slap on an idi engine..

the VNT15 is very well suited to the 1.6 idi..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #13December 15, 2011, 01:42:58 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 01:42:58 pm »
There are several VNT upgrades from the VNT15.  You could go for the VNT 17 or 17/22 hybrid.

most people arent gonna buy a 17/22 hybrid to slap on an idi engine..

the VNT15 is very well suited to the 1.6 idi..

Huh?? Who's talking about a 1.6 IDI?  This thread is about an 1.9TDI ALH.  Oh, did you think I was replying to your threadjack?

sorry, i had just woken up, and was still in the IDI section, not fully aware that i was INDEED in the TDI section. please forgive me! wasnt meant to be a thread jack, i promise..

yes, there are quite a few upgraded VNT turbos for the TDIs.. both drop in bolt on compatible, and not so drop in, bolt on setups..

some guys are running VNT22s, 23s and 25s with custom tunes, and big power numbers..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #14December 15, 2011, 01:44:05 pm

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Re: 1.6 turbo & manifold on a TDI?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 01:44:05 pm »
There are several VNT upgrades from the VNT15.  You could go for the VNT 17 or 17/22 hybrid.

most people arent gonna buy a 17/22 hybrid to slap on an idi engine..

the VNT15 is very well suited to the 1.6 idi..

Huh?? Who's talking about a 1.6 IDI?  This thread is about an 1.9TDI ALH.  Oh, did you think I was replying to your threadjack?

and yea, i did think you were replying to my threadjack, because you hit the reply button, then quoted my entire threadjack.. LOL.

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92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

 

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