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Next, I will start building the mount
by
theman53
on 08 Oct, 2011 20:55
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Here is the mock up for the mk2,mk3 style mount. I am going to make a jig type thing to hold the engine mount without the cast Al piece so I know where it is supposed to be. It looks like it maybe easier than I had once thought, but I will hold my breath a little to make sure. VW of course made the cast piece so that they bosses are NOT on the same plane, or even 2 and 2 on the same plane, and that looks like the only hold up.
What you are looking at is a 1.6TD with a 1.9 head and my special turbo and intake. The turbo isn't bolted correctly as it cannot be. The 1.9 blocks should make it go easier as they are 16mm or so taller than the 1.6. Wdkingery will get the first one for fitting. After that I will probably make a couple to sell to you guys...except
nathan_b as I don't like him, he is in an mk1, and he is probably above these mounts anyway.
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#1
by
vanagonturbo
on 09 Oct, 2011 19:25
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I dont really see the interference problem you are referring to. Perhaps you could detail? There is also a different bracket that is OEM and offset differently. auto vs. manual are different.. that might help or not..
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#2
by
theman53
on 09 Oct, 2011 21:34
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In the second pic you can see it some. The bolt hanging down out of the manifold I cannot get into the turbo as it is hitting the mount. The cold side of the turbo is also hitting the mount. You can see it if you look at the first and third pics, I should have taken a better shot.
Basically to mount a VNT or even flip a K24 or T3 *I think* you are going to run into engine mount issues. If nothing else getting the intake hose to clamp onto the turbo. What I am hoping for is to make the mount about 3/4" thinner so that all will work. I may go a to around 1" shorter and that would make the engine about 1/4" higher on this side if there are no other mount issues by doing this. This VNT is a bit bigger than the vw VNT's and doesn't have an intergraded manifold so I can get away with a little more possilby.
If someone has that etka thing and could confirm different engine mounts that would be great. The hard part should all be the same, but I know there were different rubber mounts.
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#3
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 10 Oct, 2011 12:45
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one thing i see here being a problem, is that you need a stock VNT15/1749V to be able to mock up too.. my turbo and manifold is way closer to the mount than that.
a stock mk2 engine mount blocks like 1/3 of the inlet of the turbo.. and they interfere badly. i think i have pictures somewhere. let me see if i can find them.
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#4
by
vanagonturbo
on 10 Oct, 2011 16:30
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191 199 354c is for a manual
191 199 354b is for an automatic
Not sure if thats going to help much, but it might be worth taking a look at.
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#5
by
theman53
on 10 Oct, 2011 17:19
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Just thought of something...
diesel auto is hen's teeth and probably not going to be VNT'ed
I have a pic of a T3 upside down and it looks like the bottom 1/3 of the inlet is covered. IIRC the VNT will be about 2" low and 2" out of the deck height of the block. If anyone could give measurements or donate a turbo for me to use that would be great.
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#6
by
vanagonturbo
on 10 Oct, 2011 17:27
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Those mounts are not diesel specific. Its either manual or auto. Fuel source does not matter.
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#7
by
8v-of-fury
on 10 Oct, 2011 19:04
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Those mounts are not diesel specific. Its either manual or auto. Fuel source does not matter.
But the chances of finding a car with an auto trans and a VNT hanging off the back of the motor is gonna be RARE.
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#8
by
theman53
on 04 Nov, 2011 21:01
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VNT mount tacked.
VNT 1749v and above for reference a can of beer and a GT2256vk
I would like to presell 10 at 75.00 each plus shipping. If I get bogged down with them the price will go up as it has been a bit of work so far. If I don't sell 10 I will finish what I have and call no joy
Let me know what you think.
I will also post in the for sale section.
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#9
by
theman53
on 07 Nov, 2011 16:35
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No longer going to do this for GTD members.
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#10
by
RabbitJockey
on 11 Nov, 2011 11:34
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did one butt hole ruin it for everyone
not that i have a mk2
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#11
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 11 Nov, 2011 13:22
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did one butt hole ruin it for everyone
not that i have a mk2
to put it simply..
YES.
well, more like a handful of @$$holes ruined it for everyone. he may be offering some mounts for sale on the Whoretex tho, but thats still pretty iffy.
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#12
by
rabbitman
on 11 Nov, 2011 18:11
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I was probably never gonna need one but this still stinks. Anyone with a normal brain would've suggested the fix and then SHUT UP.
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#13
by
BigVWman
on 12 Nov, 2011 16:21
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I don't own a diesel mk2 anymore either but I hope the actions of the few don't dampen the spirit. Its projects like these that help the rest of us out in the long run as well! I have never seen a for sale thread go bad like that in a long time. The mod's on a couple other sites i'm on will immediately dink you for crapping in a FS thread.
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#14
by
rabbitman
on 13 Nov, 2011 02:31
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The mod's on a couple other sites i'm on will immediately dink you for crapping in a FS thread.
We don't really have any full time mods, they tried to quit but can't stay away so once in a while they step in and put a halt to this nonsense.......