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#60
by
92EcoDiesel Jetta
on 30 Aug, 2011 04:55
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ROR, are u using that toywagen pulley on your diesel? It is designed for the gas engines. Will it have the correct offset for diesels, especially mine? What about pulley diameter? Is it the same?
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#61
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 30 Aug, 2011 11:25
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ROR, are u using that toywagen pulley on your diesel? It is designed for the gas engines. Will it have the correct offset for diesels, especially mine? What about pulley diameter? Is it the same?
8v, and diesel should have the same offset pulley. it should be the bracket that is different..
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#62
by
92EcoDiesel Jetta
on 30 Aug, 2011 11:49
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R U saying in addition to the Toywagen pulley, I also need the adjusting bracket from a gasser to convert my Ecodiesel to AC less? With a new longer belt of course.
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#63
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 30 Aug, 2011 11:56
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R U saying in addition to the Toywagen pulley, I also need the adjusting bracket from a gasser to convert my Ecodiesel to AC less? With a new longer belt of course.
no, im saying that you need a mk2, non-a/c mount for a diesel.. the gasser mount will have the alt in the WRONG spot..
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#64
by
vanbcguy
on 04 Sep, 2011 19:36
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I swapped a non-AC alt pulley on to a non-AC alt (the mounting ears are different), dropped my compressor off as scrap metal and then got the VW non-AC brackets and bolts. That way I can always get parts that fit without having to fab anything down the road. No issues with alignment, no issues with belts.
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#65
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 05 Sep, 2011 17:18
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I swapped a non-AC alt pulley on to a non-AC alt (the mounting ears are different), dropped my compressor off as scrap metal and then got the VW non-AC brackets and bolts. That way I can always get parts that fit without having to fab anything down the road. No issues with alignment, no issues with belts.
no, there not.. there is a complete a/c alternator on my 86 golf.
the brackets are different, not the alternator and pulley..
the mounting ears on the non-a/c alt were no different than the big 90a a/c alt i swapped on my car..
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#66
by
burn_your_money
on 05 Sep, 2011 17:56
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no, there not.. there is a complete a/c alternator on my 86 golf.
the brackets are different, not the alternator and pulley..
the mounting ears on the non-a/c alt were no different than the big 90a a/c alt i swapped on my car..
Sorry Kevin but the mounting points are different on the AC vs non AC alternators. The top pivot one is the same but the lower one is different. Actually the top one might be different as well I'm not 100% sure now. I have held both in my hands and you can clearly see they are different. I thought I have a picture but I don't.
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#67
by
vanagonturbo
on 05 Sep, 2011 18:52
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The ear position on a factory AC equipped MKII alternator is the same as a gasser. It is different than a non AC diesel MKII.
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#68
by
vanbcguy
on 05 Sep, 2011 22:38
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Trust me, they're different. I had to buy a new alt I otherwise didn't need to get the brackets to work. I definitely tried to use the one I had first only to find it didn't fit the bracket at all.
The diesel non-AC alt has the mirror image of the gasser / diesel AC mounting ears - they are exactly the same size, shape, etc just exactly opposite in where they sit on the alternator. If I made my own bracket and was happy to have a non-standard belt size I could have used my AC alt, but I wanted to be able to walk in to a parts store in the middle of nowhere and get parts by number rather than messing around trying to fit bodged together components. Besides it was starting to get noisy.
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#69
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 05 Sep, 2011 23:15
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i got lucky then.. because i have an 86 GTI (golf conversion) that is factory non a/c, non p/s car.. it had a tiny little 65 amp alternator..
i didnt change ANYTHING besides the wiring, because the 65a had a plug with 3 wires, and the 90a had 2 separate wire.
anyways, pulled the 90a off a GTI w a/c & p/s.. still had the pulley on it from the a/c belt setup. bolted it right on the non a/c
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crap, i forgot that diesels have different positions for the alternator if its got a/c or not.. i forgot that they place them up REAL HIGH like on a gasser. and down low for non a/c..
sorry guys, my bad, i was wrong..
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#70
by
ORCoaster
on 06 Sep, 2011 21:30
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I guess we can forgive you. Depends on how much corner time you are willing to do. Or would you rather write something like 500 times. Remember when they used to do that stuff?
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#71
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 06 Sep, 2011 21:49
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I guess we can forgive you. Depends on how much corner time you are willing to do. Or would you rather write something like 500 times. Remember when they used to do that stuff?
i DO remember when they used to do that stuff..
they dont anymore, and it shows.. kids are hellions now days..