Motor Serial Numbers

[Gizmoman]

I am going to have a local VW mechanic replace my worn clutch in my 82 Westy. The old 1.6 has been replaced with a 1.9 AAZ Turbo. He only asked for the year/make it came from so he can make sure to get the correct clutch. As I didn't do the swap, I looked for numbers on the engine and could only find one on the head.
The number is 028103373M and it is located right behind the first injector on the front of the engine.

Anyone know what model/year engine this is? (hopefully the head is stock)

I crawled underneath and all I could find was 1.9 TD on the block. I also found "140  4" on the block towards the back on the pump (top) side.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

[vanagonturbo]

the 028 part number is merely the part number of the head. The serial number of the engine should be located beneath #3 injector on the block. there is a flat surface there and it will start with AAZ if you do indeed have an AAZ. Then there will be one string with 3 numbers and another string with 3 numbers. Those 6 are your serial number.

Granted, none of that will likely help you to determine what clutch you need.

[DieselBalz]

You will get that answer here I imagine with pictures and recommended upgraded, faster than yer mechanic. Also, you can do this yourself. Seriously.

I have only changed a clutch in an F150 before. Never worked on a VW other than handing my dad tools two decades ago while he toiled away on his Rabbit, and I knocked this out myself.

With the help of the Bentley, reading here on this site, and the right tools (read: good jack stands, torque wrench, a long extension, a buddy for a second set of hands, and jack (( 2 if you can )). You can do this in one day.

Save yourself the cash, and get to know your dub a bit more intimately. The satisfaction of the job done is so rewarding.

[Gizmoman]

Thanks all for the info and the hearty prodding to do this myself. I have no doubts that I can as I did a turbo/Suby swap over ten years ago in a 72 van and drove it daily for five years. I agree with the "getting intimate" thing but I'm in the midst of adding on to the house and I simply don't have time for this as well.

Once I get the numbers (gotta leave for work right now), anyone know I translate them?

Thanks again, you guys are great and I applaud your enthusiasm.

[theman53]

If it is an aaz you will have a 210mm clutch and the mk3 style with one post in the flywheel. The earlier has 2 posts that locate the clutch. If you are buying ALL new pieces it should not matter in a regular car, but since it is a westy I have no clue. If they have a specific flywheel you need to buy those parts that fit that flywheel.

[Gizmoman]

If they have a specific flywheel you need to buy those parts that fit that flywheel

I may have to do this myself just to figure out what I need then. The previous owner kept receipts for everything but the motor .

I had visions of dropping this off and picking it up the next day - something I've never done and was looking forward to.

[vanagonturbo]

If it is an aaz you will have a 210mm clutch and the mk3 style with one post in the flywheel. The earlier has 2 posts that locate the clutch. If you are buying ALL new pieces it should not matter in a regular car, but since it is a westy I have no clue. If they have a specific flywheel you need to buy those parts that fit that flywheel.

Not in a vanagon. Vanagons use standard design clutchs, not the backwards design like an 020.

There are generally 3 types of clutchs that could have been used in the swap. The stock DV clutch (most likely what your van has), a Kenedy adapted flywheel setup which uses the wasserboxer clutch disc, or a TDI clutch. I think the only way to know FOR SURE what parts you need is to pull the trans. Your mechanic will not know either unless he pulls the trans too.

[R.O.R-2.0]

wouldnt you need to drop the ENGINE, being that it is mounted to the trans also?

lol.. j/k

i knew what you meant tho..

[vanagonturbo]

It is ridiculously easy to do a clutch in a 2wd drive vanagon. Super easy!

[Gizmoman]

OK you've all talked me into it.
I'll put the house addition aside for a weekend and dive in.
Once I have the clutch in hand, they'll be no doubts as to what to get.

Thanks again for the help

[vanagonturbo]

No prob and GL! Just in case there might have been any confusion, pull the tranny and leave the engine in the van

[Gizmoman]

No prob and GL! Just in case there might have been any confusion, pull the tranny and leave the engine in the van

I plan on it - that's what the mechanic said he would do as well. While I have the tranny out, I will add as much soundproofing as possible after pressure washing the bottom side. It would be great to have a conversation with folks sitting in the back seat for a change
Any other suggestions are welcome. . .

[the caveman]

Why not try to find a clutch brake rebuilding shop. You bring them what you have and they can rebuild them to whatever spec you want. The place I go to [ i think i'm too far away for you use !] relined my clutch while i waited