Additives

[wdkingery]

so ORCoaster got me to thinkin.. wonder what else ya'll are puttin in yer tank/crank

so i figured i'd go first.

crank: (prolong, the miracle honey of the 90's, and some "motor medic" i had been gettin for a $1 )


tank: (ofcourse my phone focused on the house in the background but you get the point)

(5w20, 2 stroke, paraffin wax, ATF, some gunk brand anti gel)

[Mark(The Miser)UK]

10% Canola [when I remember] for that french fry smell

[wdkingery]

mmmm great idea!

[maxfax]

'Bout all I add to the diesel tank is a can of Seafoam from time to time..  The "WVO" tank gets all sort of nasty crap dumped in it..  None of it any sort of additive of course...

[ORCoaster]

Oh yeah, I know that Gulf Wax box well.  What is the anti gel for?  Haven't seen that one mentioned before.  I don't see the vial of lavender oil anywhere out there.  I know you are dying to try it.  Are you running this thing on used motor oil?  Or adding a bit to the diesel?  What is your current recipe for the tank mix? 

[wdkingery]

Oh yeah, I know that Gulf Wax box well.  What is the anti gel for?  Haven't seen that one mentioned before.  I don't see the vial of lavender oil anywhere out there.  I know you are dying to try it.  Are you running this thing on used motor oil?  Or adding a bit to the diesel?  What is your current recipe for the tank mix? 

Hahahah I really do wanna try the lavender oil hahahaha.
The anti gel was like 65 cents a pop and it said cetane boost so i bought like 4 or 5 for fun.
Now the real question you asked me!
I just poured some motor oil in (it was a random jug we had around) just to get rid of it but my ultimate goal was W85. Ford made some large idi's in the 80's and early 90's and those guys are using 85% used motor oil mixed with 15% regular unleaded.. So i bought a vw idi to do this myself but never built the filtering contraption

[ORCoaster]

That Splains it.  My son had an 84 Rabbit he converted to WVO and on occasion he would dump his engine change in the fuel tank to use it rather than throw it away.  Without a filtering mechanism I would be leery of doing that.  He now runs his Dodge Ram on WVO but he bought a centrifuge to filter out the heavy breading and fry parts.  I would think something like that would also take care of the metal shavings.  Maybe not they are so fine.  Magnet maybe, in a filter? 

I see your smoke bombing resulted in a rather steep drop on the Fuelly curve last fill.  Fun costs.

[wdkingery]

Hahahah did you see that?? And remember i'm 3% high to boot! Wound that screw right back in!
How much was this centerfuge?

[ORCoaster]

The Wizzy gizmo was pretty cheap because it was broken.  Not sure what it's real purpose was.  My son had a spare washing machine motor laying around and put that in there somehow.  Says it reeaallly throws the crap out now.  He generally collects a bunch of oil in those five gallon jugs around town and then bulk filters it on a Saturday.  Takes most of the afternoon to process about a hundred gallons.  He stores about 5-700 on his place in those plastic tanks on pallets that i think they use for agricultural spraying. 

And Yeah had to hit the link at the bottom of you sig after previous discussion on that fuel screw. 

[somedumbjerk]

maybe i'm being dumb, but why are you putting paraffin in your car? isn't it less lubricated than diesel?

[the caveman]

Been running on WVO for more than 300,000kms. I never add anything to my fuel, the VO improves the lubricity just fine. As for the engine oil, i just use Rotella T6 and a bit of Lucas oil treatment

[Mark(The Miser)UK]

maybe i'm being dumb, but why are you putting paraffin in your car? isn't it less lubricated than diesel?

Parafin wax is different to parafin heater oil. The former dissolves in diesel and improves it's lubricity

[somedumbjerk]

maybe i'm being dumb, but why are you putting paraffin in your car? isn't it less lubricated than diesel?

Parafin wax is different to parafin heater oil. The former dissolves in diesel and improves it's lubricity

hmm, thanks! i'll try that next fill up. what kind of ratio?

[ORCoaster]

Thanks for the cover Mark,  I think you have both over there and use them differently. 

Why the WaX?  Two reasons: First for thickening the fuel, Bosh pumps at least mine is thirty years old.  There is some wear in there that is like microscopic.  But it makes the internal pressure low and I can't pound the pressure regulator in any more.  So I have two choices.  New pump or thicker fluid to pump.  Not wanting to do the WVO conversion, been down that stinky road, and you still need regular diesel to start on cold.  I found that adding wax 2 OZ to a gallon of diesel than when it is dissolved pour that in the rest of the 10 gallon tank.  But you can go more, some say much more.  Getting the diesel thick gets the pressure in the pump where it should be, 43 lbs at idle and 70+ at full boar roar.  Pressure controls dynamic timing so if you are good at idle the path across the RPM range is good.  Timing controls efficiency, power, drivability, and smooths out the wham or the knock of the diesel.  If you walked up to my car at idle you wouldn't know it was a diesel.  It is that quiet now. 

What do you know of making diesel?  The mandated Ultra Low Sulfur is called skinny, it has less viscosity than the old stuff.  The stuff my thirty year old pump was designed/ engineered to run on.  Some of the process to make the fuel have less sulfur takes out the thickening agents.  So I put it back in with a bonus.  Paraffin has a good deal of Cetane in it.  Diesels love Cetane!  So the power of the fuel comes up, the timing is on and I am a happy motorist getting 50 MPG. 

Now go get some, put one whole brick, 1/4 of a pound in your fuel and see what that does to your drivabiltiy of your car.  I could put all or some of those other additives in the fuel but they are more expensive for me.  I get 80 gallons of diesel treated for 4 bucks.  2 oz each tank along with some other oil to make the fuel slippery.  It is a strange brew we use.

[Powjetta]

Hey this is the first I've seen this, I want to try it.  Gulf wax huh, does it actually dissolve in the fuel?  How long does it need to mix?  Should I use a glass jug to see whats happening?  Thanks for bringing this up, I just use 4 oz of power service once in a while.