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July 24, 2011, 09:36:53 pm

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Them thar rubber flappers
« on: July 24, 2011, 09:36:53 pm »
I was pulling the grill off the car today in prep for a paint job later in the summer.  as I had my head down next to the radiator I got to thinking if I should be tucking those rubber flaps up into the keepers for the summer.  Anyone do that or do we just run them as is and let the fan cycle more in the stop and go traffic?  I was wondering if it makes any difference at all if you are doing mostly highway miles.

Let me know.  Thanks.

Reply #1July 24, 2011, 11:54:45 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 11:54:45 pm »
those rubber flaps are open when there is pressure going thru the radiator.. then when you are stopped, and the fan is running, it sucks them closed and seals everything up..

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Reply #2July 24, 2011, 11:56:40 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 11:56:40 pm »
 mine seemed to take awhile to cool down...i was missing one of those flaps...went to the parts car and grabed one from there ...now it seems to cool alot quicker.....i think they help the fan pull air over the whole rad...with out it the fans just pulling what ever the diamiter of your fan blade is...

Reply #3July 25, 2011, 08:13:05 am

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 08:13:05 am »
The rubber flaps stop the fan from recycling hot air from the engine compartment when the car is stopped, fan running. The flaps suck shut and make sure all the air the fan is drawing comes through the rad. They open up at road speed, fan off, to allow maximum "wind" through the rad.
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Reply #4July 25, 2011, 12:22:49 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 12:22:49 pm »
Thanks guys, didn't think about the whole radiator cooling process at a stop.  Nice they did and put in a mechanism to deal with it.  So no playing with the flappers, got it.  And they don't even have to be spring loaded the fan just sucks em up.  I love it.

Reply #5July 25, 2011, 01:21:51 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 01:21:51 pm »
Thanks guys, didn't think about the whole radiator cooling process at a stop.  Nice they did and put in a mechanism to deal with it.  So no playing with the flappers, got it.  And they don't even have to be spring loaded the fan just sucks em up.  I love it.

yea, they just kinda lay there.. when the radiator shroud is pressurized (driving down the road) they let air thru the radiator..

when the radiator shroud has a vacuum (stopped with the cooling fan on) then they suck closed so the fan only pulls air thru the radiator, not hot air from the engine room.
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Reply #6August 01, 2011, 01:58:06 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 01:58:06 pm »
And they don't even have to be spring loaded the fan just sucks em up.  I love it.

Yup pretty clever, mine used to have a plastic "stiffener" so it couldn't swing too far towards the engine but over the years I've broke 'em off accidentally.
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Reply #7August 01, 2011, 07:54:17 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 07:54:17 pm »
My plastic limiters are still in good shape.  That is what got me to thinking that maybe you used them to flip and tuck the flaps up there for the summer.  But the advice seems to be "Back away from the radiator and keep the flaps where we can see them".

Reply #8August 01, 2011, 11:29:17 pm

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Re: Them thar rubber flappers
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 11:29:17 pm »
mk5 and 6 vw shrouds have the same flappers, but they are like 6in wide and 2.5in tall. same-ish material.
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