Canada vs. US

[vanagonturbo]

I have a question. Why is it that Canada got so many more diesels and diesel options than the US? Is just that Murricans have had such a perceived aversion to diesel? Or is there something else? I mean Canada is generally colder than the US and diesels take forever to warm up. I would think the observation would be the opposite.

[DieselBalz]

Its the French's fault.

[maxfax]

Murricans are indeed skerd and perplexed by diesels, as well as three letters -- E P A

[the caveman]

Even more than that. At one point in the late eighties, Quebec sold something like 20-25% of all in North America, all with 2.2 % of the population

[8v-of-fury]

GoCanadaGo

Americans don't want the little 1.4 TDI's that Europe has, they're too efficient! LoL

[R.O.R-2.0]

GoCanadaGo

Americans don't want the little 1.4 TDI's that Europe has, they're too efficient! LoL

america is run by big oil.. and diesels dont guzzle much oil.. so we dont sell many diesels. and the EPA is sleeping in the same bed as the oil companies, so that doesnt work either.

[vanagonturbo]

Even more than that. At one point in the late eighties, Quebec sold something like 20-25% of all in North America, all with 2.2 % of the population

I dont quite understand. Could you elaborate?

[the caveman]

We had the largest share of diesel sales, even though there were only 6.5 million people in the whole provence

[the caveman]

Don't quote me on the exact numbers, but it was something like that

[lovinthedeez]

growing up on the border a little bit south of montreal, even I know that quebec pretty much carries canada around, eh. .  I kid, I kid.  Biggest regret of my life was not getting dual citizenship like all of the smart folks there.....   no wonder they want to secede.  pay the most in taxes and get squat for the most part.

[vanagonturbo]

We had the largest share of diesel sales, even though there were only 6.5 million people in the whole provence

Wow! Pretty crazy. Any idea why that was? Other than the obvious.. (people were paying attention)

[the caveman]

Quebec is it's own animal, really different than the rest of North America in many respects. As for cars by the mid/late 70's when the first big oil crisis happened , we were still buying big Cadillacs, Buicks while the rest of the continent started downsizing. Then by the mid eighties we were leading the pack in small cars. I wish i still had the sale numbers from the time i mentioned before, but all to say , it was completely disportional

[CRSMP5]

usa dislike diesel... gm screwed us all with their crapy v8 they sold...

from 87ish thru 89 there was also no diesels in usa.. then 89-91 we got them..

a eco had a na pump.. a na had a turbo pump... why... soot... supposedly reduced soot emmissions that way.. then no diesel till 96 tdi.. then had tdi thru 04.. no 05.. then pd in 06..

new ones got silly scrubbers in exhaust.. lower power.. reduced fuel economy.. so on..

if i had to be honest.. id rether breath in a cloud of soot i can see then this imiginary stuff i cannot see... why... if you can see it your lungs can filter it..

its kinda like the debate on the ozon hole.. the crap we have made synthetic via emissions and stuff mother nater cannot fix.. but back in the day of plums of smoke from factories and stuff there was no issue... WHY? easy... mother nature can fix stuff it created.. aka fossle fuels and such... if its from the earth earth can fix... but the man made WFT is that.. mother nature is like hell.. die you stupid idiots.. 

[RabbitJockey]

yeah that sums up diesels in america haha, all the cars gm made with diesels were junk, it ruined their reputation with americans, then look here in the late 90s-2000's people fell back in love with all the huge diesel trucks that people had been making into weekend warriors on the drag strip.  so in 2007 they add all the emissions bull *** and ***tier fuel. now all the newer ones don't get as good as mileage as older diesel.  some of the new diesels actually spray fuel in the exhaust to help burn off junk for emissions reasons.  talk about cut off ur nose for ur face 

[RadoTD]

yeah that sums up diesels in america haha, all the cars gm made with diesels were junk, it ruined their reputation with americans, then look here in the late 90s-2000's people fell back in love with all the huge diesel trucks that people had been making into weekend warriors on the drag strip.  so in 2007 they add all the emissions bull *** and ***tier fuel. now all the newer ones don't get as good as mileage as older diesel.  some of the new diesels actually spray fuel in the exhaust to help burn off junk for emissions reasons.  talk about cut off ur nose for ur face 

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"Did you top up your exhaust fluid?" is now a legitimate question. What's next? Are they going to make turn signals that are filled with special gasses requiring blinker fluid or run mufflers on a bearing system to allow some rotation? The future is bleak.